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Does anyone have a link to the story about OxYoke Original WonderLube 1000. I read year's ago an article that had technical data showing 1000 shots fired in a T/C New Englander .50 using non-petroleum cleaning/lubing products by OxYoke. The article stated they never cleaned or lubed between shots and had a 1 1/2" group with the last four shots of 1000.

Looks like a quote from Dr. B.B., Montague NY:

https://secure.tcarms.com/store/natural-lube-1000-plus-bore-butter-in-a-tube-cat-no-7309.html

I remember seeing that in advertising claims. I never tested it to that extent though! If anybody wants to buy the powder and lead, and pay me a week's wages to take the time to do it, I would be happy to conduct that experiment and report back!

I like Wonderlube ok, but don't use it much, preferring spit patches for PRB targets and bear grease for lubing hunting patches. When the bear grease runs low, out comes the Wonderlube. I do like the Wonderwads that are pre-lubed with Wonderlube for C&B revolvers, but it's been so long since I bought any I don't even know if they're made anymore.

Thanks SP,
I had the actual article with technical data and photos. Can't find it now!

wonderlube - bore butter, what ever name they use, aint worth a dang.

Why? And I suppose frontiermuzzleloadin.powerguild.net/ is better because...

1) We all want modern ML's?
2) We don't like traditional ML's?
3) Free ad space on this forum is a deal?

Inquiring minds just have to know.

William,

Bore butter is just a wax. Its great for a patch lube, mainly what i use it for, however, all this season your barrel crap, its just that. Bore butter - Wonder lube is horrible rust protection.

Not only that but the biggest complaints are from those that used it in their bores a lot and it built up so badly over time and their accuracy went down hill.

Check this one out,
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=...Knowing_the_Limits_of_Rust_Preventatives

I've read that test before. Great article about rust prevention.

I'm not talking about rust prevention. I'm talking about shot-to-shot accuracy and ease of repeatedly reloading a muzzleloader. WonderLube 1000 can't be beat (non-petroleum).

I'll be siding with gnoahhh here.

Yes, it is wax based and if you clean with solvents it will build up over time. Season a bore like a cast iron skillet..don't know if that's exactly what's going on, but... I've been using it almost since it came out and I've never experienced the problems associated with it. I clean with boiling water and that eliminates the problem with wax based anything. I also use it as my bore coating when I'm finished cleaning. I belive, but can't prove, that the boiling water expands those little cracks and fissures in a bore and when a patch coated with Bore Butter is ran through the bore, as it cools it sucks the stuff in those little cracks and fissures, coats the hot bore and prevents oxidation because it's effectively sealed. Am I crazy....mebbe...but I NEVER have a rust problems and if my rifles shot any better I don't know what I'd do with the extra accuracy.

In modern rifles if one lets the copper fouling build up accuracy will be compromised also...don't see a lot of difference here.

I'd also perfer bear fat but bears are in rather short supply for shooting in Missouri.

I've been using it as a patch lube and rust preventative in my T/C hawken for 10 years now. No rust, no buildup, excellent accuracy, no complaints. I think the problems asociated with it are complete bullschitt.

I've been doing the same since the 70's and haven't had a problem. I rest my case.

frontiermuzzleloading....yea, that's a real good traditional site...bet they got all the answers about real black powder, patched round ball, patch lube, flintlocks, cap locks, etc., etc. And that one guy wasn't even born when most of us started seriously shooting muzzleloaders.

LOL who said my site was about traditional muzzle loading?

Keep your personal attacks to yourself why dont you.

and you guys may have been around longer than i have, so which brings up the point, you havent learned much if you're still using bore butter.

You don't even dignify a response.

Don't let the whelp get under your skin 4590. It's the hubris of youth talking- lots of knowledge about a few things, and little wisdom to make sense of it all, coupled with arrogance toward anybody who dares to dispute him.

Supercilious is the word that comes to mind.

I use it as a patch lube, bullet lube and to swab the bore in my caplocks and flintlocks with good results. It does turn brown when left in the barrel and alot of people mistake it for rust and panic. I just keep a jag on my ramrod and wipe the bores every so often. My blackpowder guns get used more often than any of my other guns and naturally get cleaned regularly. I buy my Wonder Lube from Eastern Maine Shooting Supplies from the folks who made the original stuff. Mike

BigBlock455 seems to have changed his signature website from frontiermuzzleloadin.powerguild.net/ to GandersMuzzleloadingsomthingORother.com?
Kinda shifty...

and your point?


This is about how crummy bore butter is LOL.