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Hey everyone I just bought a winchester model 70 is 225 anf was wondering if anyone had an experience with them and also what they thought about the 225.
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i think it's probably a little bigger than a .223. prolly real similar ballistics. i'm also guessing the ammo is a lot more expensive.
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Some consider it an underrated cartridge that was a victim of poor timing and/or marketing, including competition from the .22-250. I believe it's closer to .22-250 ballistics than the .223, but you'd have to look it up.
If I were in the market for a rifle in that class, and found a good deal on a .225, and had a decent source for brass, I'd go for it.
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very close to .22-250 ballistics in a Model 70, brass can be problematic to find, but is available.
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It is similar to the .22-250 in performance. Winchester had brought it out as an alternative to the .220 Swift, which by then had a (undeservedly) fussy reputation.
It should be a good varmint caliber, and okay for small deer with good bullets.
It is one of those Cartridges I'd never go out of my way to own, but if you find a nice rifle so chambered, it is still useful. You will have trouble finding loaded ammo, if you don't handload.
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I went together with a buddy when I was in graduate school and we bought one to share. I had just started handloading (for reasons of economy) and bought a set of dies as soon as I could afford to. We shot it a lot and used it for some collecting (white-tailed deer). In addition to deer, we shot javelina, feral hogs, coyotes and a few bobcats (we did a lot of predator calling back in those days).
It was an easy cartridge to load for and was certainly the most accurate rifle that I had used up to that time. When my buddy finished his Ph.D. and got a real job, he bought my half of the rifle and the dies. I really missed it once it was gone.
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It is very close to the 22-250 and in my opinion a better round than the 22-250 when chambered in a single shot rifle.
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Interesting cartridge. Just looked it over in the latest Hornady manual[#8], and it compares pretty well with the 22-250. If you can find brass for it, you'll be in good shape. Let us know how it turns out.
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Graf's has plenty of brass.
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There is nothing at all bad about the 225 Win, except ammo availability. It does anything the 220 Swift does.
I had one in the early 1970's. It had sat on the rack at a store for years, and I got it for a song. It was a simple Win mdl 70 post 1964 that shot ragged holes. I got tired of the scarce factory ammo and sold it.
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Graf and Sons (I think?), they're in eastern Missouri, lots of oddball stuff they stock, good to deal with.
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I have a Ruger No.1 V that was a 223 Rem. that I had rechambered to 225 Win. It is one of my PD rifles that goes with me every summer to Montana. Volocity wise it is more of a 22-250 Jr. Seems to run about 150 FPS less than the 22-250
Load data 50 grain Hornady V-Max 34.2 grains Win 748 CCI BR-2 primers 3534 FPS Cases aren't that hard to find, Wichester makes a run of they once a year. One of my favorite rifles for p-dogs.
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I've owned a 1966 era Model 70 for many years. I developed this load about 10 years ago: 35.0 grains H-380 50 grain Hornady V-Max WIN WLR WIN Case (bought mine from Huntington's in CA at the time) 2.437" COL Chronographed at 3300 fps @ 77F The round feeds well in my rifle (semi-rimmed case) and is under max enough to ensure long barrel life. Groups 5/8" to 3/4" with five round groups fired at 100 yards.
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If you chamber and fire one in a 22 250 AI , it makes smoke and looks funny when you extract it . And the second one don't work any better .
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Blue Star Brass has it. I do not have a 225 anymore, but still have a bunch of loaded ammo and new brass. Butch
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Hey everyone I just bought a winchester model 70 is 225 anf was wondering if anyone had an experience with them and also what they thought about the 225.
Thanks I have a local customer who got the bug for this round about a year ago.. So he commissioned me to build him a varmint rifle in .225W... About a week ago he called me on some unrelated matter but did mention that he just LOVES that rifle and the performance of the .225W...
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SSK Industries(JD Jones) makes several wildcats for contender and encores from that case and he has a generous supply of cases if you need them. I have owned several rifles and a couple pistols chambered in the 225 win and the omproved version. All were accurate and would do about anything a 22.250 would do. They are certainly not in the swift relm as has been suggested. The case was a modified 30-30 case in the beginning, I believe. The case is much stronger however. My old model 70 from the late 60's was one of the slickest bolt guns I ever owned, unfortunatly sold to pay bills while raising a family. My current gun in that chambering is a T/C Contender from Gary Reeder in a 14 in tube. It out runs the ,223 by a bit in that platform and I like the rim for ease of extraction. The .226 JDJ , an improved version of that case will run equal to the 22.250 Rem
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