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I've taken over 700 coyotes with that bullet and have never had one stay in. Even on lengthwise shots. They really penetrate.
That is interesting Pat. I shot a 'coyote' with a 140AB last week and the dog held it head on.
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Pat, Mind sharing what load the guys were using with the 155 Scenar and the 30-06?
Thanks in advance We started out with 58.0grs H4350 and worked up and stopped at 3000fps(best ES and groups)At around 3050fps the bolt lift was getting stiff. Lapua brass Fed 210M Antelope buck shot with an '06 and 155gr scenar with that load. Many thanks. How far off the lands do you usually start your load work up?
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Is that a red stag on page 5? Yes it is.
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huntr, I like to start at the lands and work back..
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My youngest with his first double...shot from the ridge above his head with my Surgeon .308 and 155's....a day I'll never forget. We watched these coyotes come up the draw from more than a mile away. The first shot was 200 meters, the second was right at 300. I've taken over 700 coyotes with that bullet and have never had one stay in. Even on lengthwise shots. They really penetrate. Nothing quite like a chip off the old block... Very well done student and teacher! Dober
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Awesome collection of photographs- and trophies!
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Scott,
That's a good fwiw picture.
I do know this.
Shooting those same bullets, they will all splash on armor plate from 200 to 700 yards.
The Scenars don't splash, they indent armor plate. A pretty surprising deep indention.
So far, I have no doubts about the Scenars breaking bone.
I'll be further testing later this spring in other mediums.
I do have a question for Pat.
What kind of tissue bone damage do you see inside the animals you shoot?
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Spoke too soon! I should go ahead and tell him he sucks now, so i don't hafta do it later.... Since you did, I won't have too...Great pictures as always Pat, just goes to show how well good equipment and components can work. Notice you snuck a 260 kill in there. I've got a 243 with a tired barrel and have been trying to decide on a caliber for a rebarrel.
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Is there a hunting version as well as a target version of the Scenar as there is with the Berger?
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They only make one version. http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/main.shtmlMy favorite source....
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Pat-any chance you've shot the 167/30 cal?
Thx Dober
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Damnation - Where are you finding these beautiful critters?
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For whatever it's worth. Gawd, the jacket on the Scenar looks thin. Holds up at close distances, eh? It isn't bonded, is it?
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Is the 'Silver Jacket' on scenars moly or some other coating?
scenar- Thanks for posting the pics!!! Great stuff.
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For whatever it's worth. Steelhead, interesting picture. Did you do the sectioning or is that from someone else? It caught my eye because the 165 gr. BT jacket is MUCH different from the one that I sectioned a few weeks ago in my mid-winter boredom during a blizzard. Here is the pic. From the right: 6mm 60 gr. Sierr HP, 6mm 85 gr. Sierra BTHP, 6.5mm 120 gr. Ballistic tip, 6.5mm 130 gr. Accubond, 6.5mm 140 gr. Sierra GK, .308" 125 gr. Nosler BT, .308" 155 gr. Scenar, .308" 165 gr. Nosler BT. I wonder if the 165 in your pic is from older manufacture, because the one I filed off has a MUCH thicker jacket and is of very recent manufacture.
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Is the 'Silver Jacket' on scenars moly or some other coating?
scenar- Thanks for posting the pics!!! Great stuff. Fancy name for moly....
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Pat-any chance you've shot the 167/30 cal?
Thx Dober Mark, I have shot those and they are extremely accurate. I was'nt impressed with the performance at long range compared to the 155's and I've never hunted with them.
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I knew this thread was gonna get good!
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Is the 'Silver Jacket' on scenars moly or some other coating?
scenar- Thanks for posting the pics!!! Great stuff. Fancy name for moly.... Thanks! Plan on trying both the 123gr and 139gr in my 260 Rem.
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Want to get some of the 90's to give a go in my 10 twist 24/06. Anyone shot these yet?
Thx Dober
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