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What you propose is a good rig for open country. In the woods 6x is too much for a fast shot, which is often the only kind you'll get.

It can't work in Texas....the deer will run too far into the thickets and need to be trailed up;nothing less than a 300 mag thank you...

It also won't work on any elk hunt for which you paid more than $1000,and have to shoot beyond 175 yards.If you are a City Slicker, cut the distance in half.....

Grizzlies will eat you...

Aww hell, it'll work. Just change the scope over to a 2-7x leupie, and yer good to go.


maddog

So, perhaps the Leupold VX-II 2-7x28 Ultralight?

Dogger �

There are just so many things wrong with that combination�

1. At the end of the day the .270 Win is a pretty wimpy cartridge. You would be much better off with a .338 RUM with its much improved long range capabilities. If the recoil is a problem you will need to add a brake and some mercury recoil reducers in the butt stock. I�ve heard tell the .338 RUM can not only shoot into the next county, it can shoot into tomorrow or back into yesterday. (Actually, that�s true. As Rush says, �Don�t doubt me on this!�)

2. A Ruger MKII? Really? You would be much better off with a �Best in the WORLD� Remington M700, even an old one that fires when the safety is released (just keep it pointed in a safe direction where the bolt handle is ready to fall off and the ejector spring is broken or missing.

3. Nobody in their right mind would use a fixed 6x. What you need is skyscraper rings holding a Night Force scope with a 50mm objective and turrets. If you can�t afford good glass, just stay home.

4. Swift A-Frames are fairly low production bullets, made by relatively �inefficient� manufacturing and are rather expensive. They also have a fairly low BC when compared to other, less expensive bullets. You don�t want to be caught dead supporting �inefficient manufacturing� and no matter how well they might work and you need to shoot dozens if not hundreds of animals to prove they work any better than cup and core bullets. Trust me, you would be better off using a Ballistic Tip or VLD. If things go bad and you lose an animal because a BT or VLD failed to penetrate, at least you can take comfort in the fact that you saved a few dimes. I mean, really � where are your priorities?

5. A nylon sling? Do you want EVERYONE to know you shop Wal-Mart? What you need is a custom, hand tooled leather sling by a well-known leather worker. Should only cost a couple-three benjamins.

6. Big-ass binoculars? Do you really want to carry those around all day when hiking up and down the Rockies looking for elk? Even on the Texas flats they will just take up space you could use to haul beer. Get a pair of opera glasses and stick them in your shirt pocket. Better yet, just skip the glasses all together and use the scope for everything. Sheesh!

7. Not on your list, but you need a good laser range finder. Don�t waste your time with the cheapies. I suggest a military quality, �man portable� unit good to at least 3 miles � you never know when a really long range shot at a world record trophy might present itself!

That'll do it or the 2-7x, 33mm.

maddog

NO!

Lousy scope... stick with a 2-7x33... get dots.

Your rig makes a lot of sense.

All he needs is a .223 with a 75 gr Hornady bullet. Make it a Match bullet to. Don't let anyone tell you you need a hunting bullet.
It damn well better be stainless steel with a fiberglass stock.
Otherwise stay home and sit in the corner by your dish.

As far as scopes go I took a nice buck at 18 paces with a 6X Leupold scope. Not a problem. In fact Varmintgay told me that if a scope isn't at least a 6x20 it will not be accurate so there.
Na na ne na na

Hmmm... so Leupold VX-II 2-7x33 with LR Duplex?

Eventually you can get used to anything if you practice with it.
Straight 4X should be enough scope for anything or else you can try and get closer the way people used to do in the old days.
whelennut

At least you could hit a pie plate at 50 yards.

.270 is a good deer cartridge. A fixed 6X is an ok varmint scope.

BobinNH wrote; It can't work in Texas....the deer will run too far into the thickets and need to be trailed up;nothing less than a 300 mag thank you...

Bob, here in Texas we refer to them as townies When a townie shows up at the ranch with his starched and iron safari khaki's, LL Bean button down, custom leather shell holder on his belt and his Roy Mark5 in 300, we have special spots for these feller's to hunt.

But I must admit, I have seen the same thing all across this country and up in Canada also, I watched a feller try to shoot a Mulie up in Alberta several years back and I swear he needed a release trigger on the 340 Roy he was toting.

Go forth with 270 and conquer

Randy

Randy: Must be the same guy I seen in Alberta.......no wait...it was a 338RUM...those bucks are BIG!

Bullschit.

I killed 5 this year with fixed 6x scopes. 21 yards (and walking in hardwoods), 387 yards (open field at WAY dark), 35 yards (walking in mixed bottomland), 7 yards (same bottomland, trotting), and 42 yards (same bottomland, walking).

That's just this year.

Over the years, the closest with a fixed 6 has been 5 yards; furthest was well almost 500. Hunted them everywhere from open fields, to creekbottoms, briar thickets, hardwood stands... among other places, and in 5 eastern states (NY, VT, NC, VT, and NH)... and they flat work, if you have a friggin' clue about mounting one properly, shooting with both eyes open, and how to actually shoot while hunting.

.......................NO-WHERE!

But why hamstring yourself, when there are dozens of better choices?

I'd seal the walnut stock up with wax or spar varnish, and bed it too. You might be more comfortable with a Leupie 4x instead.

BobinNH...I think you are wrong on that one..if the same fella he was carying a 338/378 Weatherby loaded with 250 Barnes XFBs...had a Zeiss 3x12x56...he had just left Alberta and came over to Meadow Lake Sask

Mine's a tang safety model and I use cup and core bullets but the set up in the original post been working for me for 30+ years. Pa. farm country deer, bear, and groundhog. 15-350 yds.

Dale

Bull nothing. 6x42's suck, and I'll gladly pay you $50 for them..






Take that walnut stock and make firewood out of it.