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I want a custom barrel in 223. I have a savage 12 and a Rem. 700 youth in 243. I'm wondering what action is better for a custom barrel and why.


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The Savage will be easier/cheaper to change the boltface on and the action is slightly stiffer than the 700 but the 700 looks way better.


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700 does indeed look better, by a long shot.



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The Savage is easier/cheeper to change the shifter and looks sharp with a custom barrel fitted like a Remington without the barrel nut.


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Originally Posted by US_Patriot
The Savage is easier/cheeper to change the shifter and looks sharp with a custom barrel fitted like a Remington without the barrel nut.


I completely agree that going nutless with a Savage is the nicest way and it does a lot to make the Savage better looking. I do nutless Savages quite often.

However, unless you have the latest Savage action with the revised bolt release you're still stuck with the rather ungainly (IMO) bolt release/cocking indicator on the RH side of the bridge.

Both actions are capable of becoming a rifle you can be very proud of.


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I'll take a Savage bolt release over a Remmy's any day...

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Remmys are a joke, with that stupid little spring. Tempted to send mine to Kampfeld to have buttons installed on the side of the action.

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The 700 bolt release is easy to use and it looks good.

The Savage one is easy to use but ugly as heck.

I'm also not a fan of the sear doubling as a bolt release as on the Savage.


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I just ordered a savage barrel in 243 Ai and installed it in under 15 minutes. If I don't like it, I can change it back to a 308, or change the mag and bolt face and have a 223 Ai in under 20 minutes.

Can't do that with my remingtons, unless they have been fitted with the savage-type barrel. Even then, I'm stuck with whatever boltface I already have.

Love my remingtons, but the savage is a tinkerer's dream.

Just saying.......


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Remington has resell value. No point in starting with a cheap receiver.


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Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Remmys are a joke, with that stupid little spring. Tempted to send mine to Kampfeld to have buttons installed on the side of the action.
Do it, I did and I'm happy with it.


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A year ago I would have said take the 700, today I will tell you to take the Savage. You can get the new barrel nut that is smooth and they look just fine. The old style bolt stops are a PITA. Period. They inhibit the ability to do a proper pillar bedding job and and inexplicably connected to the trigger mount. The new ones look better and work fine.

Savage seems to have a smaller loading port, making the action stiffer.

They are extremely easy to get to shoot. Cheesiest thing on the action is that stamped recoil lug.


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Originally Posted by David_Walter
I just ordered a savage barrel in 243 Ai and installed it in under 15 minutes. If I don't like it, I can change it back to a 308, or change the mag and bolt face and have a 223 Ai in under 20 minutes.

Can't do that with my remingtons, unless they have been fitted with the savage-type barrel. Even then, I'm stuck with whatever boltface I already have.

Love my remingtons, but the savage is a tinkerer's dream.

Just saying.......


I'd rather have (1) 700,than (3) Salvages and a quiver full of extry tubes.

Pretty easy to ring the bell on a build,for them inclined and to actually even shoot same...................


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Originally Posted by nsaqam
I do nutless Savages quite often.


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Originally Posted by Big Stick


I'd rather have (1) 700,than (3) Salvages and a quiver full of extry tubes.


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Originally Posted by ihookem
I want a custom barrel in 223. I have a savage 12 and a Rem. 700 youth in 243. I'm wondering what action is better for a custom barrel and why.


Nothing wrong with the Savage action. Using the Remington you'll need to have the .473 boltface bushed to .378 which will also mean a different extractor and more expense. Most cost effective would be to just get another Rem. bolt if you can find one, or a new one from PPG. With what you've got I'd use the Savage action......changing a Savage bolthead isn't difficult and it doesn't cost much.

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You gals like to make easy schit difficult. Pretty easy to swap/sell the .473" action for a .378" version of same...though I realize that'll steal your thunder.

Shaking my head.................


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Pretty easy to swap/sell the .473" action for a .378" version of same...


Maybe/maybe not.... swapping depends on where you are and who's out there wanting what and finding them. Selling, then finding/buying what you're after isn't easier than just ordering a bolthead.

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If that's "difficult",I'm laffin' even harder than initially...which was a belly laugh.

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