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That's a shame. Is it long enough to warrant cutting off and re-breaching? My first thought was to send it to Bobby Hoyt and have the bore "freshened" but probably not worth it for a Douglass barrel. yes it is to bad . but i get enough calls for smooth bore barrels that i plan on just boring it out .
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I think the key to using the natural lubes is to not mix other solvents and preservatives with it. I started shooting a TC in 76. Bore butter works on my guns. I totally trust it to prevent rust. Bore butter does turn brown in the bore..... over time in my 54 but not in my 40 flinter...... so I believe its related to air contact. I did contact the manufacturer at the time and was told that was the case.
I once took my Hawkin to the range, after shooting I field cleaned it with TC cleaner, dried and slathered the bore with RIG. When I got home 45 minutes later for the more meticulous cleaning the bore had rusted. That taught me to never mix the natural product with petroleum based..... haven't had a problem since.
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Something that always puzzled me about hunters that use Bore Butter. Why on earth would you hunt with patches or smear your muzzleloader with stuff that smells like ben-gay. Might as well bring an air horn in the woods.
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Ha ha, good point! Maybe we would all be well advised to use doe estrus as a patch lube!
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Smoething that always puzzled me about hunters that use Bore Butter. Why on earth would you hunt with patches or smear your muzzleloader with stuff that smells like ben-gay. Might as well bring an air horn in the woods. It doesn't matter a bit what you smell like so long as you stay downwind of the deer. Conversely, if you're upwind the deer are going to smell you no matter what. I smoke like a chimney so it doesn't make any difference to me. Smoke is the best wind indicator you can find so I'm always very conscious of what is going on with the air currents. The proof is in the pudding so to speak and I've always killed more deer than my scent conscious, non smoking buddies.
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Another good point. I remember shooting more than a couple of deer with a lit cigarette in my hand.
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like someone on another forum said, Butter is for toast
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9 pages on Bore Butter. I think we all need to go out and shoot some stuff with our muzzleloaders! Groundhogs oughtta be up and about shortly.
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I think we all need to go out and shoot some stuff with our muzzleloaders! Groundhogs oughtta be up and about shortly. I'm anxiously awaiting that myself. Still snow on the ground here and got 3" fresh this morning. I did get out to verify zero on my .223 yesterday. Winter seems long this year.
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Another good point. I remember shooting more than a couple of deer with a lit cigarette in my hand. My best, and the only one I have a shoulder mount on, I killed the year my buddy put a kerosene heater in the back of the truck with all our other gear for the trip in. Damn thing leaked kerosene into the bed, and everything reeked, even stuff that didn't get soaked like our hunting clothes. I payed extra special attention to the wind that year, and have ever since.
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payed extra special attention to the wind that year, and have ever since. There ya go !
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Now let me throw a kink into the whole thread and add this: I use Bore Butter in the green tube. It's the latest and smells just like pine. No more BenGay smell for me. No cleaning between shots, no rust, and I smell like a pine tree.
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but i hunt in an area with cedar trees, not pine.
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No cleaning between shots, no rust, and I smell like a pine tree. That's what you think.
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Smokepole, This is what I know. Yur just blowin' smoke (or puffin' it).
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but i hunt in an area with cedar trees, not pine. Then your problem is obvious, just move your location to an area filled with pine trees. SHEESH!
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Smokepole, This is what I know. Yur just blowin' smoke (or puffin' it). William, what I meant ws, "you think you smell like a pine tree." Get it? It was a joke.
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but i hunt in an area with cedar trees, not pine. Then your problem is obvious, just move your location to an area filled with pine trees. SHEESH! bad part about it , LOL ... is it smells more like one of those cheep pine scented car air fresheners that are shaped like a tree. Then any real pine tree . anyone remeber the wintergreen scented bore butter LOL kinda funny really . hunter A / whats that ??? hunter B its a pine air freshener . i dont want the deer to smell me . hunter A thinking on this says: GREAT idea throw in that confusion factor . Human Butt , human sweat and alittle man made fake pine sent . That will fool em
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To a deer you smell like death, fear, and government "assistance" all rolled into one, no matter what special odor you annoint yourself with.
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Not William CLunie, he smells like a pine tree!!!
(Insert smiley face here)
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