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Yes, and my arse smells like violets!
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Putting protectants on sterile flat blocks is one type of testing but it ignores the chemistry of a fired barrel as someone above posted. And possibly the chemical interaction of any previously introduced products. Again this is a barrel with "years" of typical hunting use. It's hard evidence of the most practical kind without any influence from ANY other introduced chemicals. It's shot from the bench on occasion, it's hunted in the field on occasion, and stored in an uncontrolled safe for months at a time. Always used 100% totally and absolutely never any other chemical in the bore other than bore butter, along with 777 combustion byproducts (and maybe a little from the 4f or nullB picked into the flash hole). There have been periods of a few years when the barrel was not removed, never ever been washed or had any type of solvent introduced. Sterile plates sitting around for a couple months aside, hard to dispute the actual effect of only bore butter in a real barrel. There may be other products that work just as well but I can't see how any could protect any better in real world conditions. Taken about a week ago after about 4 months of storage. https://picasaweb.google.com/tundragriz/BoreVideos#5583400052852085970
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stop the film around 45-48sec and theres a big ol chunk of rusty spot lol.
49 sec " pause asap" there appears to be a big ol pit mark and a deep scratch.
You should run some copper conicals " Thor" through that GPR, My fathers cabelas hawken had the same chatter marks on the rifling that makes it look like a wash board. Fired around 40 shots and it really smoothed it out.
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I'm like Gmack.I have been using bore butter since about 76,nothing else inmy TC hawkin. Never had any rust. Cleaning every 5-6 shots don't bother me much. I did wear a barrel out which TC rebarrele for zip.After ML season, I clean it , swab with methanol to make sure all the moisture is out and swab with bore butter. Then it sets until the next summer.Patches come out just yellow like the bore butter. Maybe the elk I kill in Colorado have bad noses, but I always watch the wind.
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Personally, I never mind the wind because my ass smells like an aspen.....
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Personally, I never mind the wind because my ass smells like an aspen..... lmao not sure whats bothering me more , the aspen comment or that you know what you arse smells like LOL sometimes you might not want to smell like ?? well you know http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khKrd1RNy2U&feature=related
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lmao not sure whats bothering me more , the aspen comment or that you know what you arse smells like LOL Naw, cap, I don't know from personal experience, it's just what I've been told. And since my sh** don't stink, I believe it.
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Okay, okay. So I must admit I smell and that the pine-scented BoreButter won't cover that awful odor, but...spray your pitts and crotch with any petroleum product and tell me if it covers your stank any better . Maybe the old wintergreen, BenGay smell would be better anyway. The deer would think we were nursing home geezers and pay less attention. Then we could get the drop on them?
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but...spray your....crotch with any petroleum product and tell me if it covers your stank any better . It might not cover the odor, but I've heard you can get up to 1,000 loadings without swabbing.....
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if'n yalls knew better, you wouldnt even have to oil your bore ever again.
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but...spray your....crotch with any petroleum product and tell me if it covers your stank any better . It might not cover the odor, but I've heard you can get up to 1,000 loadings without swabbing..... If sprayed directly in the rectal region, I've heard it makes you run faster too. bigblock, No, I don't want to see any YouTube videos of this procedure.
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If sprayed directly in the rectal region, I've heard it makes you run faster too.
Only if you're close behind.
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I purchased a T/C New Englander (used) recently. The bore was in good shape altho the previous owner was probably not as careful overall as I am. I shot the rifle and cleaned it using the "new" methods and products such as the Bore Butter. What a mistake. It didn't take too long and what do I find in the barrel?.....RUST! I,m back to the hot water, soap and Clenzoil. I'll stay with what works. The bore butter may be ok for patch lube but don't trust it for rust protection. I won't.
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Ah, don't toss the bore butter...do like Smokepole and use it for spreading on your toast with your mornin' coffee.
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I eat more bore butter before breakfast than most guys do in a lifetime......
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