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I'm surprised no one has mentioned two cartridges that have truly BTDT on virtually ALL BG,world-wide.Not Internet theory...the 300 Weatherby and the 300 Win Mag. If you are going to talk "best",you gotta talk globally,and you gotta talk everything, under every conceivable condition...most of the choices here are Lower 48,(where almost everything works, cause we don't really have much BG in the overall scheme of things;and what we do have is easy to kill)which means you aren't taking into account the plains and bushveldt of Africa and the huge variety of animals that live there;nor the mountains of Asia,where a short short can be 400 yards.And game can range in size from under 100 pounds to close to a ton. If I were lucky enough to be able to hunt in all those places for the very wide variety of non-dangerous game and conditions encountered,these two would be at the top of my list,with a magnum capacity 7mm as a close second,loaded with the best heavily constructed bullets I could get. The 300 Weatherby and 300 Win can both be loaded with the standard fare for average stuff,pointy high BC bullets at high velocity for wind bucking and flat trajectory,and heavy, sturdily constructed 200-220 gr bullets for crunching bigger animals at close range. They have been the choice of globe-trotting BG hunters for decades,taking everything from elephant and buffalo at rock throwing distance, to markhor,mountain nyala and Asian sheep in wind-swept mountains at long distances;plus everything from pronghorn to Brown Bear here,with no compromise. These,along with some variety of 375,are truly at the top of the heap when any discussion of "best" pops up.Nothing else does all these jobs as well as a magnum capacity 30, in a rifle you can lug around, and still manage well..The other stuff can't hang.....JMHO 
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Very good point Bob, I think if one were to look at past Weatherby award winners they would find that a large percentage of those guys used one of those cartridges.
It has been my experience when meeting guys that hunt ALOT (all over)they tend to keep it pretty simple and straightforward!
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Randy: Few things as simple and straightforward as a 200 gr bullet at 3000+ fps.  If you can manage the recoil without sacrificing accuracy, of course.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Bob, I dont like your sig line.... 
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Bob I like your sig line 
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I would go with the 300RUM, because of the different loads it will run. I also like the 260 Rem, for the smaller stuff.
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Bob, I dont like your sig line.... I had to take the pressure off Tom..... Marc: I knew it wouldn't be long before someone commented....LOL!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I read a wise man who once said a 264 is a 270 with short barrel life 
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(medium power)+ 30 caliber
I vote 300WSM Neck the suck out of it, and you're there Or you could just substitute the good 'ol 7RM for equal performance...
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Bob...your Sig line is one of those little "signs" we see as a person ages...and delusions set it.... Its soooooo sad....  You used to be so sharp....
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Bob...your Sig line is one of those little "signs" we see as a person ages...and delusions set it.... Its soooooo sad.... You used to be so sharp.... Ingwe: As I deteriorate into a bitter,condescending,and jaundiced old man, I am flushing out the infidels.....figured that sig line is the CF Equivilent to "Kiss My A___."
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Yeah!! Well screw yez all!! I vote fer the ONLIEST cartridge to have worked itself OUT of a job!! 45-110 Sharps. 500-550 grain slugs and it has killed just about everything.
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300 Weatherby. Used from dik-dik to elephant.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned two cartridges that have truly BTDT on virtually ALL BG,world-wide.Not Internet theory...the 300 Weatherby and the 300 Win Mag. If you are going to talk "best",you gotta talk globally,and you gotta talk everything, under every conceivable condition...most of the choices here are Lower 48,(where almost everything works, cause we don't really have much BG in the overall scheme of things;and what we do have is easy to kill)which means you aren't taking into account the plains and bushveldt of Africa and the huge variety of animals that live there;nor the mountains of Asia,where a short short can be 400 yards.And game can range in size from under 100 pounds to close to a ton. If I were lucky enough to be able to hunt in all those places for the very wide variety of non-dangerous game and conditions encountered,these two would be at the top of my list,with a magnum capacity 7mm as a close second,loaded with the best heavily constructed bullets I could get. The 300 Weatherby and 300 Win can both be loaded with the standard fare for average stuff,pointy high BC bullets at high velocity for wind bucking and flat trajectory,and heavy, sturdily constructed 200-220 gr bullets for crunching bigger animals at close range. They have been the choice of globe-trotting BG hunters for decades,taking everything from elephant and buffalo at rock throwing distance, to markhor,mountain nyala and Asian sheep in wind-swept mountains at long distances;plus everything from pronghorn to Brown Bear here,with no compromise. These,along with some variety of 375,are truly at the top of the heap when any discussion of "best" pops up.Nothing else does all these jobs as well as a magnum capacity 30, in a rifle you can lug around, and still manage well..The other stuff can't hang.....JMHO Um, I believe that the .303British, the 7x57 Mauser, the 8x57 Mauser, and the .30-06 Springfield all might have a bit to say about your theory that only the .300 mags have BT/DT on everything.
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300 Weatherby. Used from dik-dik to elephant. I second that nomination
Whatever a 7x57 can do a 270 can do better.
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For me it's always been the .243 with 100 grainer Sierra Game Kings..... Rabbits to Deer. It's all good.
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Um, I believe that the .303British, the 7x57 Mauser, the 8x57 Mauser, and the .30-06 Springfield all might have a bit to say about your theory that only the .300 mags have BT/DT on everything.
VA: I never said they were the "only" ones'.......
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Just checking...
Simple fact is that any cartridges in the ballistic ranges of the .303Brit/.30-40Krag, x57, x61, or belted mag case derivatives from .264 to .375 will handle anything on this planet, and easily so, as well as having already done so, time and again.
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Agreed...
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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