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Yeah, multiple rail issues on the SBLs, misaligned barrels, schitty machining....and the list goes on. Marlin QC has obviously gone down since they became Remlin.
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I don't drink. Let's see if we can explain it in simple terms. The Marlin .45-70 Guide Guns made by Remington in Remington facilities are nice and accurate. That's two statements you've made that I have experience that indicates otherwise. I had a .308 M700 that WOULD NOT shoot. Simply would not group. I have a Marlin-made guide gun that WILL shoot. Accurately, that is. Groups run from .8" to 1.2", depending on how well I am accommodating recoil. And,yes, that is at 100 yards. But, that's just my experience.
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I've owned dozens of both. If you had an inaccurate Model 700 it wasn't the rifle.
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Pre-Remington Marlins are $hit, and if a Model 700 wasn't accurate it wasn't the rifles fault? Are you for real Swampy? I think the Remington Kool-aid has been laced with acid.
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Maybe you should (again).
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I've owned dozens of both. If you had an inaccurate Model 700 it wasn't the rifle. I can shoot. Explain the Marlin doing so well.... Never mind..
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I have a Marlin Guide Gun [circa 2002], that is ported. I mounted a 1-4x leupold scope on it. It shoots around 1" at 100 yds. I've killed bear, hogs, and 7 head of African plains game, with that little rig. My go-to bullet is the 300 gr. nosler partition. Pre Remington, they are great, well made little guns. BTW, before I forget, Swampie, yer full of schitt! maddog
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Well...
With my XLR at 100 Yrds I get 1.5-2.0 with my 450 Marlin and Pep sights...
From a bench
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That which does not kill us makes us stronger
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Given the low power optics (2.5 x)on my guide gun, I am quite pleased with it's accuracy. About 2 moa for me. I'm running 405 gr gov slugs. I think it might snug up a bit if I used better optics. I'm not planning on head shooting ground squirrels with that one, so it's more than adequate for its intended use (dark timber elk).
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what kind of accuracy can be expected from this little carbine? Mine was crazy accurate, sub-MOA scoped if I took the time to bench it right, which isn't easy, and fight my way past that trigger. If accuracy is the goal Wild West (I think it is) makes a trigger that a buddy of mine, who is really into triggers, likes a lot.
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From what I'm seeing on other forums, and hearing from people, the new Remington made Marlins, And I'm talking .45-70s, are fraught with issues, from installing barrels in Guide Guns, meant for other guns with mis-located dovetails, to offset sights, to extremely rough (unpolished) bolts and feeding levers, to a series of other maladies, that should have been cured with a little quality control. Boils down to simply not caring about what is pushed out the door. The JM Marlin made guns have exhibited great - I mean, great - accuracy, and excellent quality control. Will Remington ever turn out a good product again? I've had issues with 3 Remington bolt guns in 7mm-08. All of the guns different configurations. Mainly accuracy and trigger issues. Fixing the trigger and reloading has not helped accuracy. Sent them all packing. My bolts are now Ruger Hawkeyes. Excellent guns! the foreign company that purchased Marlin and Remington certainly did not do the American sportsman any favors. Ruined two American institutions. There are other companies that were bought out as well by this conglomerate. We'll have to wait to hear reports on them. If you can buy a pre-Remington (aka Remlin) Marlin, scarf one up while you can. They are excellent. My recent ANIB ported Guide Gun (built in 1999) is a prime example: incredible accuracy, very well built, and smooth as silk. Better than most bolt action guns.
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