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JG - somehow you are channeling my exact thoughts. (My wife says that you may want to seek help.)

JG - see above.

I think a great deal of it is perception...Mallet, as stated by the quoted NFL source, carries himself and talks like a thug.

The two biggest factors determining his future are the people surrounding him and how he choses a plan to become a leader of the team.

He's always been on top and has never really worked for anything due to his natural talent and abilities. Once he sees what it takes just to make the roster, he'll either grow up or go into business with Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russel.

Pac Man Jones ring a bell?

Pretty much the bottom line. The perception of the majority of NFL teams is the latter will likely occur. The combination of a guy that's never had to work to be "the guy", that acts like he's from the ghetto, but won't have to return to the ghetto if he fails...not a good risk.

You and I are essentially agreeing, but don't think for a minute that they don't research it eight ways to Sunday, and that it doesn't factor in. It's all about risks vs reward. Mallet is a prime example that it DOES matter to them.

Surely you jest. You don't think Bobby Petreno made him work? When he got that public drunk or drinking in public or whatever it was, Petreno like to have run him to death. miles

Yet a team was falling all over itself to get Cam Newton - an admitted thief and cheater. It matters - to a point....

That pretty much describes 75-80 percent of ALL players in the NFL. Which is the reason I have probably watched parts of 2 or three NFL games in the past 5 years.

Admitted he stole a laptop. Yes. Admitted cheater? No.

I'd draft an axe murderer, as long as he puts up numbers.

Most NFL teams would too, if they were satisfied the guy wasn't going to get in to any future trouble.

Rumor is that Mallet admitted to trying Pot. Assuming that they asked all of the draftees that question, seems like he may be the only one that told the truth, yet he is perceived as having character issues. I am not trying to stick up for him but I am questioning why everyone is not held to the same standards. I do not like the thug issue with him or any of the others. miles

As stated, they didn't believe it was "just pot". It's about perception. They (the NFL guys) got the perception, real or imagined, that he wasn't forthcoming. People can point to the instances where the NFL missed, or got it wrong, but they try, and image matters some, the bottom line matters more. They take calculated risks.

I'll trade you Cam Newton and a couple of draft picks for him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For Mallet? You're nuts!

Why don't you make yourself a note and revisit this in five to ten years to see if reddnek would have come out ahead. I have no idea whether Mallett is going to be a star or a bust, but I feel very safe in saying that Cam Newton will be no better than an average NFL QB and has a better than 50% chance of being a bust (I would put the odds of Cam Newton being a bust at somewhere around 75%).

Id put the odds of most NFL QBs of being a bust at that or higher. It's a high failure rate position. #1 Draft picks naturally start out handicapped with poor team surrounding them, unless some better team lower in the draft trades everything to get that pick.

Both Newton, and Mallet have the physical tools. Whether either will be worth a schit in the NFL is anybody's guess, and largely dependent on surrounding circumstances, which from a football standpoint favors Mallet at this point based on the fact that nothing is really expected of him immediately, and he's going to have a good team around him and time to learn from a good staff with no pressure. Will he learn and take the coaching? That's the major question mark for him.

I agree with you RR. I give Newton a 50/50 shot and Mallet a "who knows" shot. Nobody runs away from, or around the NFL boys for long without paying a price.