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what a prime time to proclaim the war has been won. we've be=headed the Snake. pull out of the 'Stan before we are forced out like the Ruskies were. democracy as we know it, isn't coming to the Stan. they're living in a different world than the Westerners. we can't impose our democracy on them, it'd make no sense to them at all. Declare victory, add several coats of varnish, and get the hell out of that chithole. bring the troops home to enforce our southern borderlines. now we're talking reality. Man, what a kook you are. Oh, the irony. Wow... amen.
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what a prime time to proclaim the war has been won. we've be=headed the Snake. pull out of the 'Stan before we are forced out like the Ruskies were. democracy as we know it, isn't coming to the Stan. they're living in a different world than the Westerners. we can't impose our democracy on them, it'd make no sense to them at all. Declare victory, add several coats of varnish, and get the hell out of that chithole. bring the troops home to enforce our southern borderlines. now we're talking reality. Man, what a kook you are. Oh, the irony. Wow... amen. el, we got plenty of money. let's just do it.
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the long term effect of whacking bin Laden Well, he won't pizz down our leg and call it rain anymore.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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putting aside how much or how little credit Obama deserves for not getting in the way of the hit on bin Laden, I think the effects will be farther reaching than many seem to recognize.
The Muslims follow the strong horse....and the US, by its patience, skill and technology, has stayed the course and killed its enemy, even if it took nearly a decade. When we look strong and serious, we are less likely to be messed with. This will be a good antidote to the goat rodeo in Libya.
Osama's high walls, guards, and the protection of the Paki armed forces and intel appparat couldn't save him from the Great Satan.....when we decide somebody's going to die, we can make it happen, no matter how well protected they think they are by raghead standards. Nobody is safe, once we put them on our list.
That stark fact, combined with the numerous blackened circles scattered around the middle East and the horn of Africa where Hellfire missiles from predators unceremoniously ended the jihad careers of promising young recruits, has got to be a huge psychological blow to the movement and a real buzzkill for recruiters.
And now, they know as well as we do that those SEALS were loaded down with documents, hard drives, laptops and cell phones......and that missiles and death squads will be following up the leads and locations within hours.
So it's a really really bad day for the bad guys, and the next few days as people get offed based on the fresh intel captured are going to be even worse. Allah akbar, losers! Not to mention the oft overlooked benefit of whacking OSB......more oxygen for us!!!
Biden's most truthful quote ever came during his first press conference, 03/25/21. Drum roll please...... "I don't know, to be clear." and THAT is one promise he's kept!!!
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very much like whacking the war chief in a fight with horse Indians.....the warriors may be brave, but the death of a leader is bad medicine and indicates the fight should not be pursued that day.
the bush Muslims are culturally much closer to stone age Plains Indians than post enlightenment Europeans....and equally vulnerable. No, wait, I thought Islam in it's daughter nations was the originator of hospitals, higher education, personal freedom as expressed in the equal rights of all citizens democratically, and the economic development that results in R&D, creating new products and drugs and the marketing and distribution of same leading to the highest standards of living and enlightenment in the world. Ah, no, wait. My mistake.
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If it happened, and I don't believe it did. It will change nothing.
1st Special Operations Wing 1975-1983 919th Special Operations Wing 1983-1985 1993-1994
"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~
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If it happened, and I don't believe it did. It will change nothing. You happened and we all regret that !!!
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yeah, most of these guys don't really have the desire to be martyrs. Killing infidels, or wrong brand Muslims, or innocents who get in the way......that's all cool. But actually getting your brains blown out at close range by a SEAL is not something many people aspire to. And since rising in rank makes one a more likely target for special attention, it makes middle managment jihadi jobs tough to fill.......no, Achmed, YOU be regional operations manager....no, Ali, YOU must be manager....no, you....no, you. Which speaks to the point of the technologically and militarily superior West so poignantly displayed Sunday night at Go Time. They Will only always be able to skirmish and fight a cowardly guerrilla style war at best. They will make the biggest inroads though as in post modern western Europe and points in Canada by immigrating in enough numbers and taking advantage of their most effective weapon-- their host cultures' penchant for holding that all cultures are of equal value (must be said in the most serious, but sensually soft NPR voice) and getting brainiac judges to accept Sharia Law.
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Yeah, they tried that in Bosnia, too. The locals got tired of the kidnappings, rapes, and murders, and set about removing the muzzies from their midst. Much like the locals here will eventually do when they get a belly full. Unfortunately for the muzzies, when the Americans finally get tired of the muzzies trying to take control of the nation, there won't be anybody big enough to pull us off of them like we pulled the Serbs off of them over there. Then it's game on for the third crusade, and they will not like how we get when we are sick of somebody's [bleep].
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