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So we compromised our newest (and unproven) technology which will undoubtedly end up in the wrong hands, so that the B-2's wouldn't kill the 20 other people in the compound (most of which died anyways).
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So we compromised our newest (and unproven) technology which will undoubtedly end up in the wrong hands, so that the B-2's wouldn't kill the 20 other people in the compound (most of which died anyways).
Yes, and we recovered a potential treasure trove of intel with the computers, hard drives, etc....that may never have been recovered otherwise. Applying all hindsight available, this was the right decision.
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up close and personal is the only way to eliminate people like OBL RAH-66 COMANCHE STEALTH HELICOPTER ![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/bea175/comanche.jpg)
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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FB's just pissed that the AF didn't get to wax him solo from 30k feet.
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How many lies does this make that the government & media have told?
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If a covert mission to take out Osama bin Laden deep in a semi-hostile country doesn't rate our best technology, then I don't know what kind of mission does rate the best.
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This is eating you alive. Isn't it.
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That mission deserved our best. It's a helicopter, I'm not too worried about any technology that's not already available.
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"If a covert mission to take out Osama bin Laden deep in a semi-hostile country doesn't rate our best technology, then I don't know what kind of mission does rate the best."
Roger that.
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If a covert mission to take out Osama bin Laden deep in a semi-hostile country doesn't rate our best technology, then I don't know what kind of mission does rate the best. Quote from the article: No wonder the team tried to destroy it. The photos show that they did a thorough job - except for the end of the tailboom, which ended up outside the compound wall. (It almost looks as if the helo's tail hit the wall on landing.) Osama dead, all US forces home alive and unharmed, classified helicopter destroyed so it is no help to our enemies. What else do you want?
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FB's just pissed that the AF didn't get to wax him solo from 30k feet. Not even on my radar as a reason. If the original plan had been for the Navy to Tomahawk his ass, I'd feel the same way.
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That mission deserved our best. It's a helicopter, I'm not too worried about any technology that's not already available. Another reason not to cut military funding.
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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FB's just pissed that the AF didn't get to wax him solo from 30k feet. Not even on my radar as a reason. If the original plan had been for the Navy to Tomahawk his ass, I'd feel the same way. Are you freaking serious? Knowing what you know now and you are still making those calls. Thank goodness you are not calling the shots. Either of the choices you endorse would have destroyed the intel they are gathering. That information may save MANY more American lives. It cannot hurt for sure. All you are worried about is the enemy capturing and building a "super copter" based on the tail housing. Sheesh!!!
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Osama dead, all US forces home alive and unharmed, classified helicopter destroyed so it is no help to our enemies. What else do you want? If they had found the Helo intact they wouldn't have been able to figure out how it worked
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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FB's just pissed that the AF didn't get to wax him solo from 30k feet. Not even on my radar as a reason. If the original plan had been for the Navy to Tomahawk his ass, I'd feel the same way. Are you freaking serious? Knowing what you know now and you are still making those calls. Thank goodness you are not calling the shots. Either of the choices you endorse would have destroyed the intel they are gathering. That information may save MANY more American lives. It cannot hurt for sure. All you are worried about is the enemy capturing and building a "super copter" based on the tail housing. Sheesh!!! What intel? Neither you, nor I, nor probably anyone on this site has a clue what intel we grabbed. Is it worth more than the stealth tech we may have given up? Do you know? I'm merely pointing out that making decisions based on political motives CAN have consequences.
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Nope, it didn't happen.....
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