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Originally Posted by RDFinn
180's in the 300 WM are like peanut butter and jelly.



x2....you can purty much hunt the world with 180 Partitions. As bsa said, Interlocks will do a helluva job too.

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Originally Posted by BCSteve
I recently started playing with the Barnes 175gr LRX in my .300 WSM. Pretty sleek bullet. Here's once next to a 180gr SST for comparaison.

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If I was going after elk, etc, I'd be looking at a Barnes load. With Whitetails, I'm afraid a heavy Barnes will shoot thru without enough expansion. If I was going to use Barnes, I'd go with a lighter bullet at high speed, i.e. 130 gr at 3,000+ in a .308 and in the .300 Win Mag, probably a 150 gr. cranked up as hot as I could accurately shoot it. That way, I'd be hoping for optimal expansion. I've never been able to get Barnes to shoot as tight at the Nosler B.T.'s, although pretty close in some cases. They're good bullets. Because they're of lighter material, they're long for weight as compared with lead cup and core bullets. One can justify backing off the weight and push the velocity. With Barnes, one doesn't need a lot of bullet weight for penetration but velocity is needed to peal those petals back to max expansion. The TTSX, reportedly, is better than the TSX in this regard and has a higher B.C. due to it's more streamlined profile.

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dirtfarmer, your responses here are just what i needed to help w/ my decision...even tho i would like to shoot a 165 grain bullet, but would more than likely do a lil too much damage on deer sized game..guess i better start lookin at 180s...it does seem like thats the golden ticket w/ these guns, just thought a 165 would be sweet w/ how flat it shot


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Whoever said to load 165 or 168 Barnes TSX or the tipped version is exactly right. One bullet, one load, multiple applications on game. I use mine for deer and moose -- same bullet, same load, same results -- meat in the pot. wink


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
[If I was going after elk, etc, I'd be looking at a Barnes load. With Whitetails, I'm afraid a heavy Barnes will shoot thru without enough expansion. ...
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FWIW, the antelope we have shot with 165g .30 cal TTSXs have all dropped at the shot. After a bad experience with a 7mm 160g XLC on antelope I could never bring myself to use another XLC or even a TSX on game. The TTSX and MRX have both been great, antelope to elk.


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If accuracy is all you're looking for, then the Nosler BT will be ok.

They suck on game.


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
If accuracy is all you're looking for, then the Nosler BT will be ok.

They suck on game.


Remington Core-Lokt, right?

I got 4 out of 5 bullets in one hole. Unfortunately, my Ed Brown Damara isn't a used Model 700, or they would have all been in one hole...

B.T.'s do well on game if one understands their strong points and their weaknesses. Accuracy is stellar and one has to first hit a target before worrying about bullet performance. Outside the swamp, there are some long range opportunities where a premier bullet comes into its own, Remington Core-Lokts notwithstanding.

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My big dilemma when I moved into the 300 Win Mag was simply the choice between the 180 gr Partition, regular vs Protected Point.
Both shoot well, but a slight accuracy edge to the PP.
Were I starting over, I would look at the 200 gr Partition, simply because some of the "newer" powders are producing some impressive velocities. Since this rifles is my long range rig, the heavier bullet tends to perform a little better when the need to reach out and touch'em is likely.


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Can't beat the Core-Lokt for performance and accuracy on deer size game.


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Swampy,
It's time to shoot your second deer and post a picture.



PS .... Shoot it in the front half.


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Haha...swampy is tryin to help..gotta give him credit for that...but i think im gonna go w/ the 180 grain interlocks and nbt's and see which one my gun likes the best..you guys have been really helpful..thanks again


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Originally Posted by navyman20
Haha...swampy is tryin to help..gotta give him credit for that...but i think im gonna go w/ the 180 grain interlocks and nbt's and see which one my gun likes the best..you guys have been really helpful..thanks again


Swampy has a long history of "trying to help". These comments by so many didn't evolve in a vacuum...

Sometime when you have absolutely nothing to do, check out some of his tidbits of "wisdom" and see if they make any sense to you...

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I've found that in my 300 win mag, 180 gr Nosler Partitions and 180 grain Sierra Pro-hunters shoot pretty close to each other.


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I use nothing but 180 Noslers in my .300..I have tried 200's but didn't like them..

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I agree w/ ya but, but if i get 2 bullets w/ the same exact specs and shoot exactly the same for when i make my dope sheet for the gun, id go that route so im more or less, "practicing how i hunt"..and for the once a year i go after something bigger than deer, the AB's would work as good as anything else if i know where to put the bullet at...im kinda a KISS type of guy, and dont like that have to mess around w/ stuff once i get it how i want. But i do appreciate your input on other options


A 165-gn NBT at 300 WM speeds is gonna be vicious on meat. Personally, I'd use a heavier, tougher bullet... keeping in the Nosler family a 180-NBT and 180-NAB pairing make more sense to me.

I load the 200-gn Accubond in my 300 WM and believe it to be an excellent all-around choice- one of the best if not the best. Just IMHO.



I have looked at the 200 accubonds, but i think thats a lil heavier than id like to go


Just for the sake of discussion- because let me say, there's a whole bunch of ways to skin this one, and very few of them suck, grin- why not the heavier bullet?

The 200-grain Accubond will likely have a muzzle velocity around 2900 fps, and that's fairly meat- friendly with an Accubond (NAB). So it's arguably better up close than the 165 or 180 NBT or NAB, unless you slow them down a bit. Plus, on an elk it should out-penetrate either of the above on average.

It's also going to be a good quick killer due to how NAB's work. You might give up a LITTLE "thunderbolt effect" to the 165-NBT but then again, I do think you run the risk of jellying half a deer with the 165, too. smile

With it's BC of .588 it's the best of the bunch out further, too. It is an excellent longer-range bullet.

On the negative side, it'll kick a bit more, won't be QUITE as flat-shooting, and costs more. I'll go grab a "flatness" number for you here to put it in perspective.




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I wouldn't waste my money on expensive bullet. The 180 Core-Lokt is plenty on deer size game. Anything is better than the Nosler BT.


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With the 165-NBT, you have dropped 39.6" at 500 yards. With the 200-NAB, it's 43". So a 3-1/2" difference in drop at 500 yds. But the 200-gn just spanks the 165 at the things that matter out far like that.

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