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Based on all the rave reviews I've seen, these rings are supposed to be top-notch. They are top notch of the $40 ring sets. But, that's as far as it goes. No offense...but what else do you need? I prefer vertical split rings that are removable and return to zero. This allows me to remove my scope for cleaning the rifle, or shipping the rifle or traveling with the rifle. Can't do so with the one piece setup like the lightweights.
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I lap my Talleys. Talleys are good if you are going for weight, but I still feel the Burris Signatures are the best rings out there otherwise. No need to lap, true scope alignment, no ring marks. I also lap my Talley LW's and think Burris has the best set-up. good post
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Based on all the rave reviews I've seen, these rings are supposed to be top-notch. They are top notch of the $40 ring sets. But, that's as far as it goes. No offense...but what else do you need? I prefer vertical split rings that are removable and return to zero. This allows me to remove my scope for cleaning the rifle, or shipping the rifle or traveling with the rifle. Can't do so with the one piece setup like the lightweights. I've never had a need for that, but the Talley Ltwts are definitely not the rings for that use.
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I find, that the light weights(because of the fact that the scope tube doesn't fit flush in the bottom of the rings until you begin tightening screws) do tend to leave unsightly ring marks(indentations)on the scope tube. Leftybolt I don't know about anyone else, but every single set of Ruger rings I've owned do this. The scope practically snaps into the well. A guarantee for scratches for every scope I've owned aside from the Conquest; their anodized holds up pretty well.
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Ruger rings are the reason I learned to lap rings. They are terrible for leaving ringmarks or in my case, a dented tube.
Better yet Ruger insists you don't lap their rings. They don't care if they *&^% up your scope...just don't lap the rings....LMAO!
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I love my Talleys - no complaints here and never had a failure.
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I find, that the light weights(because of the fact that the scope tube doesn't fit flush in the bottom of the rings until you begin tightening screws) do tend to leave unsightly ring marks(indentations)on the scope tube. Leftybolt I don't know about anyone else, but every single set of Ruger rings I've owned do this. The scope practically snaps into the well. A guarantee for scratches for every scope I've owned aside from the Conquest; their anodized holds up pretty well. Yep - a learning experience for me. I have mounted and unmounted probably 25 scopes in my time using Leupold rings mostly. Don't recall finding a ring mark on any scope I've removed. This w/e had to remove a new Minox scope purchased here on the fire (there's another story there - loose eyepiece - point of aim shift, etc.). I had it mounted in Talley Lightweights that are almost universally praised wherever you look. Upon removal of the scope I found not only ring marks but actual dents in the tube - 4 of them - 1 near each ring gap. As mentioned above, I'm not new to this. I use scope alignment bars that should point out any massive problems with the rings or the receiver mounting holes. I used a Wheeler Engineering FAT to tighten the ring caps to 15-20 inch/lbs. Although I don't remember having to push the scope down into the bottom halves of the rings, I do remember the bottom of the ring "grabbing" the scope. When I go to pack the scope in the original box I find a warning about overtightening scope rings voiding the Minox warranty !?!?! Anyway, I've contacted Talley via their website describing my concerns but after reading some of the posts here it seems like a known issue. Is this just part of the joy of using Talley rings?
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Melvin Forbes designed these rings and sold the rights to talley so he has used this style ring since nulas inception I have used them countless times and switched scopes back and forth and never had one scratch or dent a scope tube but ther is always a first.
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I have some Warne rings, pretty sure they are Warne, that you have to "snap" the top ring down over the tube. Gives me the heebie jeebies every time. Are they Leupold QRW or PRW? All my Warne rings are like these, quick release and permanent shown:
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Melvin Forbes designed these rings and sold the rights to talley so he has used this style ring since nulas inception I have used them countless times and switched scopes back and forth and never had one scratch or dent a scope tube but ther is always a first.
gene Gene do you lap these before mounting your scopes. I never have. It's almost like the sharp inside corners of either the ring caps or the lower rings dug into the scope tube. Maybe lapping off those corners is the answer. I really like the design of these things and I don't want to ditch them if there is a relatively easy fix for this.
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I own 6 sets of Talley LW and I have lapped every one of them. They are light, strong, reasonably priced and have never messed up one of my scopes or let me down. Also Talley customer service is top notch.
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I own 6 sets of Talley LW and I have lapped every one of them. They are light, strong, reasonably priced and have never messed up one of my scopes or let me down. Also Talley customer service is top notch. How much lapping are we talking about - going for high percentage contact between inside of the rings and the scope tube or just knocking off the sharp edges?
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I lapped a pair just the other day, ended up getting at least 80 percent contact and still had plenty of gap when I torqued them down..
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Is there a special compound you use when lapping aluminum rings? I've been lapping Talley LWs with my Wheeler kit with good success, but I've heard others say to use a different non-embedding compound with aluminum.
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I use the wheeler kit also..
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I own 6 sets of Talley LW and I have lapped every one of them. They are light, strong, reasonably priced and have never messed up one of my scopes or let me down. Also Talley customer service is top notch. How much lapping are we talking about - going for high percentage contact between inside of the rings and the scope tube or just knocking off the sharp edges? I have had to lap every single pair of these rings that I have mounted.. I want the scope tube to sit in the rings perfectly without a gap without having to use force .
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I always lap every set, and also radius the edges so they don't dig into the scope:
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I find very few rings that don't benefit from lapping.
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I find very few rings that don't benefit from lapping. +1
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What do you use to radius the edges?
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