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Someday we'll all hopefully have the same rights that we presently bestow on our beloved pets...
I'm not advocating this option for any person who wouldn't want it. I'd just like to know I didn't have to suffer or live a day longer than I choose to. I've lovingly euthanized most of my loved pets. I think I deserve the same consideration.
But for those of us who might want a Dr. to be able to ease our transition back to the earth - I say this man was a hero.
Here's the article:
Dr. Jack Kevorkian, the crusader for assisted suicide who spent years in jail for his work, has died, according to a report from the Detroit Free Press.
Kevorkian's lawyer Mayer Morganroth reportedly told the paper the 83-year-old died early Friday morning at Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak, Michigan, where he had been hospitalized for about two weeks with kidney and heart problems.
The report said it appears Kevorkian suffered a pulmonary thrombosis when a blood clot from his leg broke free and lodged in his heart.
"It was peaceful. He didn't feel a thing," the lawyer told the paper.
Kevorkian's controversial work earned him the nickname Doctor Death.
The doctor claimed he had actively helped 130 people to die, and his efforts contributed to an international debate on euthanasia that continues to this day.
He spent more than eight years in jail for the murder of a man whose videotaped assisted suicide was aired on national television.
Kevorkian went public with his suicide machines in 1990 and the videos of his patients begging him to help them die.
He dropped bodies off at hospitals and dumped them in parks and abandoned buildings. He brandished the kidneys of a man he'd helped die during a 1998 news conference saying, "first come, first served," a reference to organ donation.
Kevorkian's campaign to legalize physician-assisted suicide has had limited success. While his native Michigan rejected a proposal shortly before he went to trial, the state of Oregon passed the Death With Dignity Act in 1997 and the state of Washington followed suit in 2008.
Dr. Jack Kevorkian, the crusader for assisted suicide who spent years in jail for his work, has died, according to a report from the Detroit Free Press.
Kevorkian's lawyer Mayer Morganroth reportedly told the paper the 83-year-old died early Friday morning at Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak, Michigan, where he had been hospitalized for about two weeks with kidney and heart problems.
The report said it appears Kevorkian suffered a pulmonary thrombosis when a blood clot from his leg broke free and lodged in his heart.
"It was peaceful. He didn't feel a thing," the lawyer told the paper.
Kevorkian's controversial work earned him the nickname Doctor Death.
The doctor claimed he had actively helped 130 people to die, and his efforts contributed to an international debate on euthanasia that continues to this day.
He spent more than eight years in jail for the murder of a man whose videotaped assisted suicide was aired on national television.
Kevorkian went public with his suicide machines in 1990 and the videos of his patients begging him to help them die.
He dropped bodies off at hospitals and dumped them in parks and abandoned buildings. He brandished the kidneys of a man he'd helped die during a 1998 news conference saying, "first come, first served," a reference to organ donation.
Kevorkian's campaign to legalize physician-assisted suicide has had limited success. While his native Michigan rejected a proposal shortly before he went to trial, the state of Oregon passed the Death With Dignity Act in 1997 and the state of Washington followed suit in 2008.
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Someday we'll all hopefully have the same rights that we presently bestow on our beloved pets...
Hopefully your daughters will find someone like him.
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ahhh Dr. Death! Shame you can't follow his example yourself Brian,.
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Someday we'll all hopefully have the same rights that we presently bestow on our beloved pets...
Hopefully your daughters will find someone like him. haha
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Brian:
Your bait is tired and stale.
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You can argue forever about the moral issues involved, but you sure can't argue that he went about his business like a complete a-hole. Brian, you may be the only person shedding a tear over this guy.
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Thousands of doctors have been doing the same thing for years. He should have kept quite about it.
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The grim reaper comes to collect his apprentice!
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Someday we'll all hopefully have the same rights that we presently bestow on our beloved pets... You are too funny (if painfully transparent) Brian. What is this pets' right you speak of? I've never had a pet ask me to kill them (although I've had a few killed). Or is it the same right we have over most all animals? I hope a few more deer commit suicide for my freezer's sake this fall. I wonder if ole Jack is walking that well intentioned path right now?...
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By the way, they don't have DNR orders in Canada? You can't refuse medical treatment? Is it illegal to off yourself there? What do they do if you do? Force you to spend the winter in the Northern Territories?
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They drink themselves to death in that part of Canada;
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I don't think of Kevorkian as a hero but I do agree that one should be able to have trained medical personnel put one to sleep at the end of his/her days. Obviously, safe guards need to be put in place but I don't know who should be in charge of the safe guards.
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Drinking yourself to death is less problematic and is socially acceptable.
It is better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6.
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Someday we'll all hopefully have the same rights that we presently bestow on our beloved pets... You are too funny (if painfully transparent) Brian. What is this pets' right you speak of? I've never had a pet ask me to kill them (although I've had a few killed). Or is it the same right we have over most all animals? I hope a few more deer commit suicide for my freezer's sake this fall. I wonder if ole Jack is walking that well intentioned path right now?... Nah, he got on the express elevator straight down.
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He didn't have the balls to take his medicine!
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I don't think of Kevorkian as a hero but I do agree that one should be able to have trained medical personnel put one to sleep at the end of his/her days. Obviously, safe guards need to be put in place but I don't know who should be in charge of the safe guards. Agree 100%
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By the way, they don't have DNR orders in Canada? You can't refuse medical treatment? Is it illegal to off yourself there? What do they do if you do? Force you to spend the winter in the Northern Territories? Yes we do. If you sign one, you can get expect to get a bit of help if you don't go soon enough. Dr. assisted suicide w/ and w/o patient consent does occur in Canada on a regular basis.
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Ironic that we can legally, honorably, and lovinly release a pet from the bonds of suffering, but not a family member.
Not all people suffering from a painful, terminal illness have the ability to end their own life, and need assistance when they choose that path.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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By the way, they don't have DNR orders in Canada? You can't refuse medical treatment? Is it illegal to off yourself there? What do they do if you do? Force you to spend the winter in the Northern Territories? Yes we do. If you sign one, you can get expect to get a bit of help if you don't go soon enough. Dr. assisted suicide w/ and w/o patient consent does occur in Canada on a regular basis. How can it be considered "suicide" without patient consent?
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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What purpose is there in making it illegal for a person suffering to end their own life?
Makes no sense to me.
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