I would run the 165's with fireformed winchester brass (thinner giving more capacity) - as much as you can fill it with, rattle it with your electric toothbrush and then top it up again and seat the bullet with a crunch.
I've put as much as 62 grains in fireformed ww brass behind a 180 without a problem. YMMV
Hasn't anyone ever heard of a drop tube to get the 4831 powder into a smaller case. Cut an old aluminum arrow off about 15" long. Tape a funnel to one end and drop the powder thru the tube into the case. I have probably burnt more H4831 powder than any other. However,anything like a 165 gr or lighter does much better with 4895, varget, 3031 etc. I have never warmed up to 4350.
Back in the60's and 70's when you could get 4831 for 45-50 cents a pound and mil pulled bullets for 2-3 cents a round. It wa common practice to scoop an .06 case full of 4831, bang it on the bench and fill some more, then seat the bullet on it with .06 ammo and NRA matches for 200-300 yard course of fire.600 yards ,was still 4831, but usually with Sierra match bullets.
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Listen guys, 50grs RL15 under a 165 SST or whatever absolutely rocks. This is the first ever group I shot with that load for the SST @200yds, 1 shot got away from me, my bad. The other bullets I use for that powder charge is the 168MK & AMAX.
I worked up to 60gr of H-4831SC under 165gr Nosler BTs. Accuracy was great but it kicked like a European soccer player and went a different route. Didn't chrony this load though.
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Had some H4831sc leftover from another project and wanted to burn it up. Loaded some 165 grain Hot-Cors in the -06 with great accuracy,(60-62 grains) the best the rifle ever did.
I used it up and still have many loaded rounds left. Two thumbs up from this ol two dollar dirt logger.
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