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heck after a good dinner and movie, i just realized that when i was a kid, my mom has an '84 chevy celibrity that got 40+ mpg LOL

Sold it with over 350k and just normal maintenance

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What the ??????
This thread started out about the Rem 700 , now swampman has you all gabbing for about 40 mpg cars .
But ill bight .
Anyone here remember why the Canadians even have car plants?
How many know that a lot of Suzuki�s are built here in the US under GM licensing and have been for decades . I have 3 Suzuki sidekicks 2 are US made and 1 is Canadian made . All three get 27mpg + .
My daily driver is a 89 Suzuki sidekick and I regularly pull 30-35 if I keep my foot out of it .
Its also on its 3rd engine . All of which have averaged over 200,000 before going south.
THE GEO tracker is also the same vehicle just with GM Label
My 4X4 is a 1970 IH scout 800A . New it got 10-14mpg .. In 90 I upgraded the carb to a TB and it went to 21 mpg . In 2005 I swapped engines and went to TPI and it now gets 30 .
On top of those I have a 2003 dodge 1 ton and a 2004 PT cruiser. Pop the hood and pick a part . Chances are that even if it was assembled here in the US, the part or at the very least the material used to make the part , comes from out of this country . I don�t care what buy today your far more likely if you trace the manufacturing , to find a foreign company somewhere in the mix of things .
This includes items we think are US made .
Swampman touts the Remington products . that�s fine . But where do the barrels come from ?
They maybe bored , turned and rifled here , but where does the steal blanks come from . Even if we can say with certainty that the blanks are also made here in our foundries , where is the actual steal coming from .
Same goes with the plastics for the stocks . They may be cast here . But where does the plastics come from . Even if you say US companies like DuPont or DOW . But guess where they get a lot of their chemicals from

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I wish I could afford the Volt.

LMAO seriously . I find that rather Hypocritical considering the 90% of the electronics are not manufactured here . The battery technology isn�t from the US . The parts that are US made are again produced with imported materials

The reality of it is that we have done this to ourselves by allowing the cost of manufacturing to go through the roof , while at the same time not increasing the quality of the material we do produce .

Then you have the public mentality like swampmans . BUY AMERICIAN MADE .
Then in the next sentence bitch about the resulting cost of that product .
The simple fact is that a vast majority of people cannot afford to buy a US product that�s produced by their own demanded wage not to mention the continual added cost of regulations ..
Even if you look at the food we buy on the shelves . Be it meat , to vegetables and fruits . Every year more and more of it is being imported . Even the majority of the lumber in our homes , does not really come for the US anymore . A whole lot of it is coming Canada or China .
Add into all that foreign companies buy up US manufacturing . So while you maybe buying something assembled here . Your maybe working for a foreign owned , or partially owned company
Simply put companies HAVE to move production to compete because the American public simply will not pay the additional cost that is reflected by our own stupidity.
We have turned this country into a country of consumers not producers ..

So once again swampman has entered a thread , disrupted it with his stupid ass of the wall , ill informed trolling, one line remarks
In this thread alone he has 20 posts . Not 1 of them with any information concerning the topic at hand


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Swampman700


My comments are about socialist owned companies dumping cloned junk at below production cost to drive American companies out of business.


You just described wal-mart. The very business you constantly tell us how much you patronize ...

You are truly the biggest idiothypocrite I can think of


"hypocrite" was the word you were looking for.

Fixed it for you.




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No, not at all, "IDIOT" was the word I was looking for.....

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You're still gay.


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I wasn't the one that derailed the thread. I never am.


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
I wasn't the one that derailed the thread. I never am.


so you cant go and do your edit .


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#5344800 - 06/18/11 10:15 AM Re: remington 700 ml [Re: maconcountyboy]
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Loc: Southern, IN Just stick with your single shots......you'll be better off.
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#5345313 - 06/18/11 01:37 PM Re: remington 700 ml [Re: Tom264]
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Posts: 337 jus curious i know the remmys get a bad rap for safety issues

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#5346343 - 06/18/11 08:28 PM Re: remington 700 ml [Re: maconcountyboy]
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Posts: 835 They have the same safety but I certainly wouldn't call it a bad safety. You must have watched the anti-gun TV piece on it!

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#5347239 - Yesterday at 08:23 AM Re: remington 700 ml [Re: reelman]
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Posts: 337 well ya that and there was a case up here where a model 700 went off and shot a guys truck. remington fixed the guys gun for free installed a there new trigger, they told him the safety failed.there are lots of cases of the safety failing its not a made up story like many believe

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#5347523 - Yesterday at 09:52 AM Re: remington 700 ml [Re: maconcountyboy]
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do these have the same bad safety issues as the 700 rifles?


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#5347528 - Yesterday at 09:52 AM Re: remington 700 ml [Re: maconcountyboy]
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well ya that and there was a case up here where a model 700 went off and shot a guys truck. remington fixed the guys gun for free installed a there new trigger, they told him the safety failed.there are lots of cases of the safety failing its not a made up story like many believe


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again so as to make sure you cant change what you already posted

lets see who was it thats posted this ?
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Just another case of cheap imported good putting Americans out of work. The prices on 700MLs have gone through the roof as it's no longer possible to get a new quality inline at a fair price.



yet you go on to post this
after you make sure to give your oppenion on scopes
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remington 700 ml ; do these have the same bad safety issues as the 700 rifles?



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700mls are cheap these days. You get some crazy fool asking an arm and left nut but they just sit and sit.

Just saw one sell for $200

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Like I said, I wasn't the one that derailed this thread. I never am.


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Futility, as defined by Uncle Remus:

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B'rer Fox constructs a lump of tar and puts clothing on it, in hopes of enticing B'rer Rabbit. When Br'er Rabbit comes along, he addresses the Tar Baby amiably, but receives no response.

Br'er Rabbit is offended by what he perceives as Tar Baby's lack of manners, becomes upset and punches it, becoming stuck to the Tar Baby. The more he struggles, the more entangled he becomes with the Tar Baby.

Using the phrase "tar baby" to refer to the idea of a problem that gets worse, the more one struggles against it, became part of the wider culture of the United States in the mid-20th century.


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Oldelkhunter is the one that derailed this thread. He does that frequently.


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
You're still gay.


I'm still patiently waiting for your first intellectual post or reply,

Well, there's always tomorrow....

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You'll still be gay.


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
Were do I say we should be buying American products? I've never said that.



You inference...get back on your meds dumbchitt

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Post# 5322871:

Originally Posted by Swampman700
Just stick with a good American made muzzleloader and you won't have to have a dog and a cane to get around.


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American rifles & knives are good values. Asian scopes are good values. I can still afford to support American gun companies and knife companies. I can't afford to support American scope companies. A Leupold that equals a Nikon or a Bushnell cost 2-3 times as much. Think about it.

I do buy used Leupolds and used Redfields.


Care to have us find more instances of where you, yet again, are found to have been lying and a hypocrite?




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The Rem 700 ML is a good gun. The only time those triggers get dangerous is when people who don't know what they are doing adjust the sear and pull weight to unsafe limits. OR they don't maintain their weapons properly such as periodically cleaning the trigger mech and lubricating it with a Rem recommended lube. Some idiots us WD40 that collects dust and turns into goo overtime creating engagement issues. If you buy one use Barnes Expander sabots through it as they don't shoot a lot of other sabots well. They are the natural choice for someone who uses a 700 high power as their normal hunting rifle as all mechanisms are in the same place.

RE: cheap CVA's. People buy what they can afford whether its guns, cars or lunch. I suppose someone is going to debate how McDonald's has put the roadside diner out of business.

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Originally Posted by NJCOP
The Rem 700 ML is a good gun. The only time those triggers get dangerous is when people who don't know what they are doing adjust the sear and pull weight to unsafe limits. OR they don't maintain their weapons properly such as periodically cleaning the trigger mech and lubricating it with a Rem recommended lube. Some idiots us WD40 that collects dust and turns into goo overtime creating engagement issues. If you buy one use Barnes Expander sabots through it as they don't shoot a lot of other sabots well. They are the natural choice for someone who uses a 700 high power as their normal hunting rifle as all mechanisms are in the same place.

RE: cheap CVA's. People buy what they can afford whether its guns, cars or lunch. I suppose someone is going to debate how McDonald's has put the roadside diner out of business.


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
Just another case of cheap imported good putting Americans out of work. The prices on 700MLs have gone through the roof as it's no longer possible to get a new quality inline at a fair price.


Really? The price has gone through the roof? Funny but I don't see them going up in price at all. I listed one in the classifieds and was told by a number of people (very politley after I asked) that my price was WAY to high and $150-$200 was about all they were going for.

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Originally Posted by reelman
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Just another case of cheap imported good putting Americans out of work. The prices on 700MLs have gone through the roof as it's no longer possible to get a new quality inline at a fair price.


Really? The price has gone through the roof? Funny but I don't see them going up in price at all. I listed one in the classifieds and was told by a number of people (very politley after I asked) that my price was WAY to high and $150-$200 was about all they were going for.


Swampy is secretely buying up used 700 ML's to drive up the price ROTFLMFAO

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I saw one on another site listed for $200 and it didn't sell. It was a blue/synthetic stocked 50 cal. I was considering one before I bought my Knight Disc Extreme 50 cal.

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