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Would like some advice. Am going to pick up a small 9mm pistol for pocket carry. (or small holster carry) Have a G17 gen-3 now, am going to keep it, but would like a smaller gun for concealed carry.
Am thinking of staying with 9mm, because I would like to stay with one type of ammo, rather than have 9mm and .380 on the shelf.
I figure some of you have some practical experience with small 9mm's, and would like to hear your thoughts.
Thanks in advance. Although I cannot recommend the subcompact model of the Kahr P9, I've had the standard version (P9, about the size of a PPK .380) for over a decade now and cannot more highly recommend it for lightweight, ease of carry, ergonomics, and reliability in a compact 9mm. Just stuffed it in my pants pocket to see, and it fits just fine, although I ordinarily carry it in an IWB holster.
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Well, we had TWO of the new Kimber SOLO pistols in the shop today, both owners complaining of feeding and extraction problems and they were right. Test fired both and they were so tight they often would not feed the second round out of a full mag. One you could not get a full mag back out without pushing down on the top of the gun with the base of the mag on the bench to be able to push in the mag release.
Carl, the gunsmith I turned my practice over to will be earning his keep on these I guess, looks like LOTS of fitting to the slides & rails and the stoning of the bump (tech term) on the bottom of the slide right over the top of the magazine.
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TLee ... why not send them back to Kimber??
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Kahr is my favorite in a compact 9 mm .
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Time and hassle I guess, it was suggested to both and they declined.
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Old cat turd!
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I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me
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Since I'm too tired and/or lazy tonight to check if I previously posted on this, I'll just post an answer.
Kahr. Pick your variant. I'm partial to the MK-9 Elite.
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Kahr CW9 is extremely accurate, small, shoots every pull of the trigger, enough grip for fast recovery shots.
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I shot a Kel Tec PF9 tonight. I didn't care for it. I felt like I had to grip it in a way that was not real comfortable, and the recoil was pretty severe for a gun that light. I'm sure it's a great choice for some, but not me...
I'm going to try some Sigs next.
Wade
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I shot a Kel Tec PF9 tonight. I didn't care for it. I felt like I had to grip it in a way that was not real comfortable, and the recoil was pretty severe for a gun that light. I'm sure it's a great choice for some, but not me...
I'm going to try some Sigs next. The only SIG I have ever owned was a P228. While not a true Pocket Pistol, it is close. It was a sweet piece and I wish I had not traded it off.
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Cole,
I think if everyone quiets down for a sec and listens closely, somewhere, out in the distance, you can hear a Sig P238 calling my name...
Wade
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A teacher friend gave me a Taurus Milennium. I have not been a Taurus devotee in the past but this lovely little pistol runs like a champion, is accurate, SMALL and EASY to conceal, holds 11 rounds of hydra shok with one in the chamber, has a thumb safety and a DA trigger. It is 5 inch accurate out to 20 yards offhand. I carry this in an inside the pants holster and hardly know it is there. Not too shabby!
Terry
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Waders, I am loving my P238, it is the most accurate pocket pistol I have ever shot.
George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you!
Old cat turd!
"Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison.
I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me
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A teacher friend gave me a Taurus Milennium. I have not been a Taurus devotee in the past but this lovely little pistol runs like a champion, is accurate, SMALL and EASY to conceal, holds 11 rounds of hydra shok with one in the chamber, has a thumb safety and a DA trigger. It is 5 inch accurate out to 20 yards offhand. I carry this in an inside the pants holster and hardly know it is there. Not too shabby!
Terry
I had one of those for some time and it was a very good little pistol. Trigger wasn't great, but she shot true and functioned perfectly. Loading the last two into that mag is a B-OTCH though; now I know why it came with a mag loading tool.
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I have more than a dozen 9mms.
The PF9 is the one that gets carried.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps
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If I was getting myself a semi-auto I would look for a SIG P239 and carry it in a quality in-the-waistband holster.
My choice is a S&W scandium J frame in an inside the stiff leather front pocket holster. Very comfortable and concealable.
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Ditto what T Lee said on the Sig P238; love mine.
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Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'
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I want to get a 9mm if I can find one I like, otherwise it's looking like a P238.
I need to try Ruger's LC9.
Wade
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Just messed with them at the shop, haven't fired one. Fits my hand nicely and the trigger though long is smooth all the way through. But it IS a Ruger pistol and I just never warmed up to them.
I am waiting to try the Sig P290 if I ever see one.
George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you!
Old cat turd!
"Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison.
I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me
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I have been impressed with my Kahr pm9, it is accurate as well. I have not been impressed with what I have heard about Taurus lately, lots of QC issues.
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Terry is the slide on the Sig P238 steel?
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