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Please check out this youtube. It's a whitehouse press release from 2009 and proves that President Obama not only knew about project "gunrunner" but directed the BATFE to increase it's efforts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PNhYk9NuNc&feature=player_embedded

He can no longer deny that he had knowledge of this program and deny culpability for knowingly arming the mexican drug cartels with 30,000 weapons. None of which was traced as was the supposed reason for allowing them to go south.

It was one of these guns (an AK-47 sporter) that was used to shoot Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in December of 2010. ( http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40678058/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/ )

And these weapons are now being used throughout mexico to murder mexican citizens, not to mention, coming over the border with drug mules and their protectors.

If this isn't grounds for impeachement, I don't know what is!

Please pass this around to everyone that you know. Please write your Congressmen and demand that President Obama be held accountable for this crime.


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The mere suggestion of letter writing to those that already know way more about it than yourself, in hopes that change will come of it, leaves me to think you haven't thought about this a whole lot!
I am becoming more amazed at each thread I open up on this forum, as to how it reveals just how the country has gotten into the shape it is in.

But don't let me discourage you from sharing this info and writing your letter...Probably need to let your kids know too, so they will understand how you did your part..


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Originally Posted by AKbushrat
The mere suggestion of letter writing to those that already know way more about it than yourself, in hopes that change will come of it, leaves me to think you haven't thought about this a whole lot!
I am becoming more amazed at each thread I open up on this forum, as to how it reveals just how the country has gotten into the shape it is in.

But don't let me discourage you from sharing this info and writing your letter...Probably need to let your kids know too, so they will understand how you did your part..


Well "Hero"-

In your entire 35 posts on this forum you've NEVER been specific as to EXACTLY how, as a law abiding US citizen YOU would respond any differently?

What would you do that would not be just as much of a crime as that which you are trying to combat..

Please tell us all so that we may learn from your "Wisdom".

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See signature line... IMO this one is already troll toast here. Just don't feed it.


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To those satisfied with the Status Quo, neither I nor anyone else for that matter could offer any degree of "Wisdom" that would amount to a hill of beans.
You guys that complain without action, are as much to blame as the enemies of the USofA.


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That was helpful.....


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Originally Posted by AKbushrat
The mere suggestion of letter writing to those that already know way more about it than yourself, in hopes that change will come of it, leaves me to think you haven't thought about this a whole lot!
I am becoming more amazed at each thread I open up on this forum, as to how it reveals just how the country has gotten into the shape it is in.


Lack of concern is how we got in this shape...in other words...people like you.

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Originally Posted by AKbushrat
To those satisfied with the Status Quo, neither I nor anyone else for that matter could offer any degree of "Wisdom" that would amount to a hill of beans.
You guys that complain without action, are as much to blame as the enemies of the USofA.


Like I said..

WHAT "Action" do you recommend?

Rather than talking in circles, be specific.

About the only thing I have seen you do is criticize other citizens for writing letters to goverment officials.

BTW, none of the folks who've have written those letters seem to be "satisfied" with the "status quo" as you claim.

You seem to have a great deal of trouble dealing with reality.

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just sent that link to issa's email and facebook page,
dont know what good that will do (if any) but if it gets some attention that would be good.


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Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by AKbushrat
The mere suggestion of letter writing to those that already know way more about it than yourself, in hopes that change will come of it, leaves me to think you haven't thought about this a whole lot!
I am becoming more amazed at each thread I open up on this forum, as to how it reveals just how the country has gotten into the shape it is in.


Lack of concern is how we got in this shape...in other words...people like you.
I've been very concerned about the direction this country has been heading for 3 decades now. So concerned that I've spent countless hours writing letters to my representatives, attending public meetings, writing, printing and distributing pamphlets at my own expense to inform the public of issues and pending legislation that I felt needed to be brought to attention etc. etc etc.. In the end I've come to the conclusion that nothing short of massive bloodshed is going to make any real difference in the direction we're headed. In other words the tree of liberty is thirsty.

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Originally Posted by steelheadslayer
just sent that link to issa's email and facebook page,
dont know what good that will do (if any) but if it gets some attention that would be good.



I emailed it to Tom McClintock asking that he makes sure Issa is aware of it...Tom's a good guy that attended a function of a local "Firearms" dealer who specializes in AR type weapons...

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I'd love for Gunrunner to be Obama's suicide vest and the death knell for ATF. There would just be so much justice if that occurred.

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by AKbushrat
The mere suggestion of letter writing to those that already know way more about it than yourself, in hopes that change will come of it, leaves me to think you haven't thought about this a whole lot!
I am becoming more amazed at each thread I open up on this forum, as to how it reveals just how the country has gotten into the shape it is in.


Lack of concern is how we got in this shape...in other words...people like you.
In the end I've come to the conclusion that nothing short of massive bloodshed is going to make any real difference in the direction we're headed. In other words the tree of liberty is thirsty.


That sounds eerily like Timothy McVeigh...
The founders gave us the tools for changing the direction the politicians want to take us...We just need to utilize them.

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"The founders gave us the tools for changing the direction the politicians want to take us...We just need to utilize them."

Amen,....PREACH IT !


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Wake up and smell the coffee. Our elected officials {from both parties} have been blatantly trampling on us and the bill of rights for the past hundred years. They've bastardised the system so thoroughly that it can no longer work as intended, if indeed it everr really could. I know things are going to have to get ALOT worse before Joe Sixpack will admit the system is broken but I have absolutely no doubt that they will get alot worse.

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Originally Posted by AKbushrat
To those satisfied with the Status Quo, neither I nor anyone else for that matter could offer any degree of "Wisdom" that would amount to a hill of beans.
You guys that complain without action, are as much to blame as the enemies of the USofA.


I'll ask again here,....WHERE are you typing these posts from, at this time.

A general location would be fine,.....and APPRECIATED.

All,......until this guy actually becomes a bit more candid (doubtful IMHO) I'd have to say that we have a fairly evolved troll, looking for people to say something incriminating and stupid.

In other words,....proto-Chum.

I'd be REAL careful about responding to his chit.

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Wake up and smell the coffee. Our elected officials {from both parties} have been blatantly trampling on us and the bill of rights for the past hundred years. They've bastardised the system so thoroughly that it can no longer work as intended, if indeed it everr really could. I know things are going to have to get ALOT worse before Joe Sixpack will admit the system is broken beyond repair but I have absolutely no doubt that it will.


It's always SO nice to hear from you bright and cheerful little rays of Sunshine.

Very inspirational defeatism there,.......

Your Theme song ? ( the rendition almost as bad as your morale) sick smirk blush




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Pretty obvious that you've no actual experience working within the political sytem and are only experienced at a bunch of worthless bitching and whining on the net. I've watched People like you do exactly that my entire life and things have gotten steadily worse. We've been on a steady march into socialism for decades now. That direction hasn't changed in my lifetime and I don't believe it will in the near future. Carry on, your work here has and will make such a difference in the direction of our nation.

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Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Originally Posted by AKbushrat
To those satisfied with the Status Quo, neither I nor anyone else for that matter could offer any degree of "Wisdom" that would amount to a hill of beans.
You guys that complain without action, are as much to blame as the enemies of the USofA.


I'll ask again here,....WHERE are you typing these posts from, at this time.

A general location would be fine,.....and APPRECIATED.

All,......until this guy actually becomes a bit more candid (doubtful IMHO) I'd have to say that we have a fairly evolved troll, looking for people to say something incriminating and stupid.

In other words,....proto-Chum.

I'd be REAL careful about responding to his chit.

GTC

I think he's either an internet super-hero special forces commando or an Obama .gov schmuck trying to suck people in.


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Originally Posted by OSOK
Please check out this youtube. It's a whitehouse press release from 2009 and proves that President Obama not only knew about project "gunrunner" but directed the BATFE to increase it's efforts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PNhYk9NuNc&feature=player_embedded


That is the smoking gun and the end of the Obama administration.

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