Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire feds trying to drive another nail in the coffin of family farms

YEP, nailed it crow. I deal with this BS already, so I know what the farmers will have to go thru if (when) FEDZILLA gets its way.

We have foreign terrorists to blame for the TSA airline hassles.

The farmers will have domestic terrorists in DC to blame for their new hassles.

My impression from the reading I have done( not law books) that it also imposes a host of record keeping and log books. It has also been said that very likely that every rig on the farm or ranch would be required to have a CDL driver. Good by to high school kids working for cash to go to school.

High school kids? Working?

They have been replaced; those are "jobs Americans won't do"....

And you can bet your ass THEY'LL have no CDL, but then its a "Federal" issue.
Call me warped, but I've watched it happen, even known LEO's to get the roadblocks for issuing citations in cases.

Lotsa coffins for the free...

death taxes are what has really killed the small farm in America.

The investment to take over grandpa's or Dad's farm is an enormity....and yes, those taxes are there just to steal land.

I don't know how to respond without sounding like sour grapes. My family pioneered Texas, settling between Ayish Bayou and the Angelina River in East Texas. About sixty years ago, it was decided by the Federal Government that a couple of reservoirs (Sam Rayburn and Toledo Bend) were more in the interest of the public than my families heritage and wealth. In the name of eminent domain, everything my family had (Tens of thousands of acres of bottom land) was seized by the government. The deal offered was accept $50 per acre, or else.

At least the "or else" doesn't make you feel as cheap.

Comply, citizen.

Fixed it for you.

When hauling wheat will one need to get a hazmat endorsement because of the hazard of grain dust?
It seems that people won't be able to do anything without a license for whatever one wants to do.

That is the whole object of the exercise, PEOPLE control.

Papers Please peasant!

Yep!

More total bullchit from the federal gov't.

If they consider going to the local elevator or local stockyard an intrastate transaction they better make all the tourists pulling boats and campers get a CDL also.

Hell, my mom goes to the store and buys a bag of oranges that came from Florida, she better a get [bleep]' CDL too!


Jesus Christ this country is getting [bleep] up.

Yep! The interstate thing seems to work and the Feds want to use it to the max. There is darned little today that does not cross some state line at some time so they think they should control it all.

This is an example of the Feds using the commerce clause to extend their power.

Same thing with the health care plan Reid, Pelosi and Obama shoved down our throats.

I am a firm believer it is time for the states to propose and pass an amendment to the constitution explicitly defining and securely limiting the scope of the commerce clause. That would return much more control to each individual state which is how this country is supposed to operate.

Say No.

Simple enough...or go along with it. Those are your choices. I believe in my heart that you guys will go along with whatever is thrown at you...and come back on here and whine about it.

Have any of you ever said NO to the govt?

No, I'm convinced it's more sinister than that. The real goal is to control the food supply and this is another step in that direction. The reintroduction of predators in L48 is another part of it. Also just look at the recently passed so-called food safety bill.

Control the food. Control the people.

You betcha.. I have.. I'll give you an example; the American Community Survey.. "you are required by law to respond..." I told 'em to pound sand - that I would not now, not EVER, fill in that form.. Got the personal 'visit' by a census drone.. Told her the same, pointed out the section/paragraph in the Constitution that defines what the census is, showed her a printout of the trespass laws in this state, then finally handed her a written notice to her, her boss, and any/all agents of the census bureau that they were NOT allowed on this property again. If they come - I can have 'em arrested for trespass since they have been warned, in writing, that it's now illegal for them to be here.. That was in May/June some time, I can't recall the dates, and I haven't heard from that outfit since..

I'll continue to say "NO" to this gov't as often as I can.. And if I was a wheat farmer I'd ignore those bastids too...



And I'm convinced you're spot on in your assessment..

Say no?

When you get pulled over and refuse to show 'em your lack of CDL they will remember that. Next time they see you moving equipment or grain or cattle they're gonna pull you over again....and again.
I would imagine that the third of fourth offense would result in a fairly stiff fine or possibly even jail time.

I'm not worried about it here on the Rez because common sense(law enforcement) stills rules but in more metro-dumbass areas it could be a problem. Get the wrong cop all lathered up and they will have it out for you.

Kinda hard to work and get chit done when you're in court or jail.

Um, who is going to enforce a stupid regulation like that? I can't see any South Dakota law enforcement organization doing it.