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What does the 1-piece do that the 2-piece doesn't?? Rigidity? Durability? How does it compare for weight?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" /> Thanks.

Unfortunately I don't have a direct answer to your question. However, I had a post going on a custom Mauser where the M70 came up and I got a comment on building a custom one from a user named "model70man". He recommended the M70 with the addition of the parts from Williams so a PM to him might be worth the effort - he may be able to shed some light on your question.

Sounds like a good start - thanks!

Hey that's me! What I used was the Williams items for the 2-piece triggerguard/floorplate. I would prefer the one piece but it is not a direct drop in replacement on the Model 70 Classic. I can tell you that the Williams one piece is a good looking unit that in my opinion rivals units costing three times as much.

You may want to direct your question to Matt Williams directly...he's the real thing and heads up Williams Firearms. His Campfire handles is Triggerguard1.

Hope this helps.

Bill

The reason that the Williams florplates are not direct drop-in replacements is because they designed them that way. They felt like if you were going to pay for quality work, you wouldn't want to drop it in to a sloppy fit on a factory stock. The factory has to put such large inletting to accomodate their factory tollerances, that a standardized size wouldn't have that custom fit look. So, they designed the thing a little larger overall, so you have to do some fitting in order to get it to work. That way the fitting becomes as tight as you want it to be. We argued with them about their reasoning, but it hasn't hurt us, we just have a seperate inletting program for them. No fitting required when the stock is ordered for it.

As for the weight, I suspect it may be two ounces heavier at the most, because there is more material used to make them.

The Williams bottom metal is more solidly made, better machined, and better designed than the rinky dink factory two piece set up with the middle screw. The middle screw can be over tightened so that it can slightly warp the receiver and hurt accuracy also.

Over the years the two piece factory bottom has been made of aluminum, pot metal and cast steel and machined steel. Or about any combination of those materials. Also, I have had factory set ups come open on firing because of the poor fit between the trigger guard/release button and the floor plate. The Williams is very secure and vastly more solid.

The Williams is so well made that it will undoubtably be the best machined part on your rifle.

It has become standard operating procedure for me to replace the factory junk with Williams bottom metal and extractor as soon as I get a Winchester. I think I have four of their set-ups now.

Nebraska, the one piece Wiliams bottom metal is 1/2 oz heavier than the two piece USRAC factory bottom metal. Least one I had a couple of years back was. D'Arcy Echols prefers the two piece as he feels the middle action screw (forward trigger guard) helps prevent the action from torquing during firing.

He's not a contributor here, but don't forget the Blackburn bottom metal. Perhaps no more solid than the Williams, but I much prefer the shape of the Blackburn. Something to consider at least...

Well, I'd like to be able to add something here, but I'm afraid it would be redundant at this point....Thanks for the kind words guys.

Between Kelly and JMac, they've pretty well summed up what we've done; why we did it, and how much it weighs. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Not much left to say, but the fact that I was keeping an eye on the thread.