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no arguing just the truth.
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If you don't like the rifles (or concept), then don't buy one. Most, I believe, think the idea of an "affordable" double rifle is great!
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I may be in the minority but I like the look of the sights as they are. They have a practical looking aesthetic that is really appealing to me.
My own "plan" for getting an inexpensive double rifle involves reaming a 410 shotgun to chamber brass 410 shells loaded with BP and topped with a case bullet crimped as per a normal rifle round.
Then getting some rifled chokes made like and old paradox gun and maybe a custom mold to drop hollowbase bullets to help with gas seal?
No idea yet how to regulate it other then altering charge/bullet weight and I am sure I could easy dump more then $5k into it.
If I were a smart man I would start with modding a .410 Contender barrel first as proof of concept.
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I may be in the minority but I like the look of the sights as they are. They have a practical looking aesthetic that is really appealing to me. I do think the sights need a bit of refining to a more classic look, but anyone who can offer a decent SxS rifle for $5K with good relability and regulation would have a hit. I also think that offering smaller bores like 7x57R, 303 and 30/30 etc would give a good rifle to fellows who will never go to Africa, but would like a SxS for hunting here in NA. .
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Dood, if you don't like the rifle, don't buy one. Furthermore, unless you're a fascist or a liberal, I'm sure you're not into telling others where their hard earned money should go. Just sayin'...
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I could give two chits where or how anyone spends their money.
I do have a problem with someone claiming that they have the best regulated barrels in the business. (Based on the fact they said so)
That their double is American made when it is only American altered.
Oh and $5000 for something built on a CZ action? Really? They couldn't pick a better made action?
If you have a problem with me saying how I feel don't read my post. If you feel $5K for a CZ built into a double rifle is a good price and a good product have at it.
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Oh and $5000 for something built on a CZ action? Really? They couldn't pick a better made action? MCH, Is the CZ action substandard?
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If I could afford 5K for a double, I'd save for another year and get another 5k and buy a Blaser. But hey I am prejudiced, we are Blaser dealers WildsoigethtemwholesalebesidesAlaska ��2002-2011
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Big Redhead that would really depend on what the intended purpose of it was. For a shotgun that isn't going to see thousands of rounds thru it, it is fine. They are low pricepoint guns made for hunters.
Wildalsaka you got that right but I would buy a Searcy.
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I like the Sabattis for the money. The Basic models have bad reputations, however, while the better grade guns in the heavy calibers have very good reputations. DANG! I would love to have one of the 9,3s, but am a bit leery.
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Bunnielab~
there is a wildcat out there that basically duplicates what you are looking for. I can't remember the name of it offhand, but apparently some people have used the 9.3x74R necked up to .458 to shoot 500 gr. bullets in their T/C Contenders chambered for the .45 Colt/ .410 combo barrels.
A place to start looking.....
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A .30 caliber Rimmed double would be fun, whether .30-30, .30-40 ( ), or .303.
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A .30 caliber Rimmed double would be fun, whether .30-30, .30-40 ( ), or .303. Good call . . . A Clark .30-30 Double Rifle is exactly what Jim used this past weekend to win the Stalking Rifle championship @ The Vintage Cup - 15th Annual Side by Side Event.
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I do have a problem with someone claiming that they have the best regulated barrels in the business. (Based on the fact they said so)
Did not. Little math lesson: Did I say greater than . . .? No. I said equal to. You can go look up the difference if you still don't understand. That their double is American made when it is only American altered.
We made no such claim. The OP of this topic did.
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A .30 caliber Rimmed double would be fun, whether .30-30, .30-40 ( ), or .303. Good call . . . A Clark .30-30 Double Rifle is exactly what Jim used this past weekend to win the Stalking Rifle championship @ The Vintage Cup - 15th Annual Side by Side Event. Photo's of the 30-30 SXS would be nice..
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Truth be told, I'm a little concerned about two things.
A straight/English grip on a DGR - i.e., controlability issues.
A comment I ran across elsewhere, that these are made on shotgun actions - which I don't know is true or false.
. from their web page: Built on CZ Ringneck or Bobwhite Shotgun (depending upon chosen caliber). Barrels custom manufactured from Douglas blank. - (470 barrels made from Pac-Nor blank.)
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Im very surprised to hear "CZ" and "poor quality" in the same sentance
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Interesting thread. Having gone through the double rifle research/buy process all I can say is the best of luck and if you can make it work, lots of people will be interested. A few observations; I don't care for the straight grip on a DR especially a BIG bore because of recoil issues. The sights look weird, but then again that's just a preference on my part. As far as shotgun actions, no issues there, LOTS of DR makers first used them, Merkel comes to mind. If these are Huglus, they make some nice stuff (their labor costs are low). A 400gr .405@ 2100 fps is WAY over spec so I'd be leery about that. Lastly, there is a reason as to why doubles are so darned expensive BUT if this new company can do it without sacrificing quality & reliability, I'd love to check one out.
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You going to display at SCI? We'll be at SCI Dallas
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