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Which Hodgdon powder do you guys prefer, H414 or H4350 for 30-06 loads with 150 thhrough 180 grain bullets?

4350

Both. And more.

150........H414 or Varget
165.......4350
180........4831

I find H 414 works well with all bullet weights from 150-220 and H 4350 from 180 up. H 414 is often the more accurate in my rifle.

H4831SC with 180's will not get up with H43550, H414 and Varget.
My notes with H4831SC show things top off at about 2565fps with a 180grainer. Save it for the .270WCF.

I've had great results in several 30-06's with H4350 with various 165 gr bullets.

H414 is pretty uniform in my rifles, and it meters better through the Uniflo. If I was forced to use one powder for the several weights, it would likely be H4350, though with the heavier bullets, H4831SC works nicely.

I don't use H4350 but know it is an extreme powder which is advertised to be temperature insensitive.

I do use H414 and know it to be very sensitive to temperature. Not only will your POI height vary significantly with a 20�F temperature change, but accuracy will also suffer.

I use 180gr bullets with H4831, (an extreme powder,) and my hot load, (which isn't very hot really,) gets about 2600fps. I know H4831 to be temperature insensitive with a change in POI less than 3" with a 70�F temperature swing. Accuracy was not affected.

Varget works well with 150-168gr, also an extreme powder.

I'm doing a ladder test with H4895 with some 150gr FMJ for my US Model of 1917 Eddystone, with good results so far. I think I'll have a load traveling at 2960fps, a little less with the cold-bore.

I do use H414 and know it to be very sensitive to temperature. Not only will your POI height vary significantly with a 20�F temperature change, but accuracy will also suffer.

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I thuink you will find that to be an individual rifle result. I have dones as you suggest and found no difference velocity or accuracy and my loads wer eused in 90 degrees and 20 degrees. The cartridges I tested included 7x57, .30/06 and .460 Weatherby. All rifles showed no change but I will stress, that was from a single powder lot.

John

Same here. Never had that powder notwork in my 06's.

4350!

I prefer 4350. I've had better results with it. H414 shot good, H4350 just shot better.

IMR4350. If that don't work, try H4350. And if that doesn't work, try AA4350.

H4350 or 4831 with 180gr slugs

IMR 4350 along with the others, but for 150gr I like some IMR 4064 also.

I've always thought it was pretty dumb on my part..

but I prefer H 414 in 308 sized cases...but IMR 4350 in 06 sized cases...

in my old age tho, my load for an 06 with bullet weights from 150 to 180 is 50 grains of IMR 4064...

If I am going for max velocity, then it is loaded with H4831SC

I have gotten good accuracy with 56.0 grains of IMR4350 and a variety of 180 grain bullets. (ProHunters and PowerPoints have been the best.) I have also gotten very good accuracy with Hornady 190 grain Match bullets and 51.0 grains of H414.

If asked to chose, then 4350 because you mentioned 180gr bullets. With lighter bullets H414 is great. Hard to beat H4350 IF you are using just one powder.

H4350 works well. So does IMR 4831 and Re 19.

I've worked up a dozen or so loads with H4350 over the years. Then a few years ago I couldn't find a pound of H4350 (or any 4350 for that matter) within 200 miles. So, I made do with Win 760 (same as H414) and found it was very good-- just about equivalent in all respects to my H4350 loads. I now think you could be happy with either powder in 30-06.

If you are worried about temperature sensitivity-- maybe go with H4350 since folks say it's temperature insensitive. I hunted coastal California for many years with what turned out to be temperature sensitive powders and never knew the difference. It just wasn't an issue.

If you want to use a powder measure, the H414 (Win 760) wins hands down.

Good shooting!