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i have the new CVA Optima .50cal with the thumbhole stock. It will be shooting 250gr Powerbelt Aerolites this year though. I have to test them out on game and see how they do.
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If this question was for me, I got a Rem 700ML and shoot a 250gr Hornady SST over 100gr of loose 777. It groups wonderfully for me. The only thing that would make it better, is if were in stainless! Kind of a pain to clean, but worth it.
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Thx BB and LS3, I want a new muzzleloader(have the T/C Blackdiamond XR now for use in Wa.)..wanting something I can run BH and 209's for eastern states or Wa during modern. I'm looking at the CVA Accura V2 or the Bonecollector. cant make up my mind. any thoughts?? open to others ML's as well....
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Check out the Optima. I honestly think highly of it. Stainless steel, thumbhole or non thumbhole and under $300 depending what you color package you want. Both of mine came with 2lb triggers from the factory and so i can;t complain about that LOL.
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so you like the optima better then yiur accura? which one is more accurate also does the optima come with the bullet guiding muzzle?
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both produce close to the same groups. Its really hard to determine which is most accurate LOL. The Optima prefers lower powder charges while the accurate likes to eat up 110+gr loads of Blackhorn to match the Optima's accuracy.
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whats the diffrence between the 2..I see the V2 has 1" longer barrel and is a little more $$
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v2 has the quick release breech plug " remove with your fingers, no tools needed" Adjustable trigger that barely adjusts the pull " 2lbs and under at most times" rubber grip panels, stock and forearm are also coated with rubber for extra grip.
The Optima doesnt have any kind of rubber except for the recoil pad of course. It too had the Quick release breech plug, lighter weight, triggers that normally break around 2lbs so you really wont notice much difference between the 2 in that department.
I like the Optima best as its slimmer and doesnt have the boat paddle shape of the rear stock like the Accura, nor does it have the long goose neck wrist area.
You really can't go wrong with either, it will just come down to which fits your build the best and what you feel is more comfortable in your hands.
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you thoughts on the electra? thoughts on the wolf? and other then the $$$$factor what about the bonecollector/triumph??
thx for your help as well
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Leave the electra out. The Wolf is actually CVA's number 1 selling gun they make. In 2009, TC sold over 39,000 long guns total " muzzle loaders / centerfire" CVA sold more Wolfs that year than TC did throughout their entire line up. They are hot little sellers and just because the price is cheap, a lot think, ahhhh its a throw away gun after i finish for the year. They are under dogs i will tell you that. They do run heavier triggers as most young shooters start off with these due to the price and the " what if i dont like muzzleloading?" Factor. This is my Wolf a handful of days ago @ 100 yards with 100gr Blackhorn209, CCI 209M primers, .500" 250gr Thor conical with open sights. First 3 shots were high so i adjusted downward. This is a 2" group with open sights and thats pretty good considering im one blind sucker LOL. I did have it scoped but i need it open sights to be legal in colorado. No special tricks either, not even allowing the barrel to cool down. With a scope and 100gr BH209, CCI 209M primers, 250gr Powerbelt Aerolites @ 100 yards. 3 shot group
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cheiot.....thats good shooting what do you not like or what if any problems are with the electra?
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well for one its not legal in colorado and two, it uses a battery. Its just one of those deals that a few years down the road, something could go out with the electronics and there wont be any replacement parts for it.
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understand that... any idea how well or if it will shot like your wolf,V2,optima? only reason I ask is I can get a brand new one,scope,base and rings,sling out the the door for less the $200.00 as far as it going bad they should replace it with life time warranty?
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Man i honestly dont know what to tell you. The price is right but the function just doesnt feel right to me.
Hell i know of a cva wolf " new model" thats been shot under 50 times and comes with the konus 3-9x40 scope set up. Hes asking $160 if you are interested. It has the blue barrel/black stock.
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Just ordered the sample pack to find the one that fits the bore.
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Just got the Thor in the mail,none will fit the barrel. I must have a 490 bore.
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Ahhhh yes that would be a no go in that rifle They ran bores of .499 and sometimes .498"
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