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...saw a Century arms FAL today for $764, with bipod mounted on the front. Pretty reasonable price, it seems - they any good?
If it were to not shoot well, are there folks that sell upgraded barrels for them?
Always did like the looks of an FAL.
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Century FAL's are hit or miss and they're a tough sell if you ever want to get rid of it. I highly recommend going up in price a couple hundred dollars and buying an Imbel FAL from DSA. It's built on a DSA receiver (milled from forged steel) and will be done right. http://www.dsarms.com/Imbel-FAL-Sta...el-Barrel---IMBEL58/productinfo/IMBEL58/
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I'd say STG-58 kit from DSA. Spend the money for the trigger upgrade (I think it's a Williams trigger job.
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Yeah,..the STG's are good rifles. All of mine are mutts with FN or Steyr lowers, and either DSA or Imbel uppers. All of them have Imbel barrels simply because they're excellent pieces of work for what they were going for back when I was playing with FAL's. Also, the Brazilians mostly trained with blanks, so the vast majority of Imbel barrels had bores that looked new. This is my favorite that I built. I hand selected the components to cosmetically compliment each other from my once fairly vast stash. The gas system was more or less blueprinted by picking components that fit together to form a good seal. The bolt and carrier are belgian FN from a G1,.. the barrel a chrome lined Imbel and the lower was a new old stock Steyr that I bought still wrapped up in it's wax paper and coated with cosmoline. The upper is a forged gear logo Imbel. (from back when they were still available)
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Mine is a Century reciever with all Australian parts,inch size. Function and accuracy is excellant. Wanted one of the Springfields but can't come up with the price. I'm perfectly happy with the Century.
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Bristoe is giving you good advice, the Imbel FAL's from DSA can be had for a flat grand and if you ask me, they're not charging what they're worth. Those Imbel FAL's are far better rifles than ANY AR-10 and I like the FAL much better than the M14/M1A. The FAL tends to be a little more reliable than most M14's and if you're comparing rack grade to rack grade, FAL's are typically more accurate than the M14/M14 (again, specifically rack grade - Once you get to NM, the M1A becomes more accurate).
There's a reason the rest of the free world went with the FAL; it's a superior rifle. They really balance well, and they handle recoil much better than an M14 or G3. Parts are cheap and readily available and mags are cheap as well. If you want a miliary style .308, you really can't do better than the FAL. And at 1k for the DSA Imbel, you're getting a top quality FAL that will be a better rifle than an M1A that would cost WAY more; how can you beat that?
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Interesting stuff. I will have to look into them some more, after I put a few more projects to bed. One of which is an AR10, FWIW
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here's an all imbel para. go to www.falfiles.com and you will find out all you need to know about fal's there. this will be with me to the end, fits me perfectly, runs 100 percent, and is accurate, be it clay pigeons at just feet away, as well as steel out to far distances. and some collectables. can anyone put a name to them ?
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The top is an Aussie Poyer.
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Also,..considering the cost of components today, you'd have to be a very savvy shopper to build a FAL like DSA is offering for $1000.
By the time you pay shipping and a transfer fee, the DSA receiver alone will set you back about $450. If you can find a chrome lined Imbel barrel, it's going to be $150. A good stripped lower will be another $100. The furniture, the little stuff, and the parts necessary to make it 922R compliant will round out to at *least* another $300.
Essentially, DSA is selling those Imbel FAL's for the price of their components.
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Another reason to buy from DSA is, like all guns, sometimes a parts (or even maybe a new)FAL will have an issue or two. If you buy from DSA, they will stand behind it.
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Splattermatic - Can't see real detail, but it looks like the other two are a standard 50.00 and a 50.62 folder.
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bristoe is correct on the poyer. the middle 50.00 model is a rogak import, and the bottom is a fn 50.63 para.
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I had a 50/50 between the 50.62 & 50.63...I guess I'm off my game; that barrel just looked longer to me. Regardless, some nice rifles there.
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yep, slowly an FAL is crawling onto my bucket list, I think I've got a Polytech M1A copy, which came cheaply some years ago, it's reliable so far, but not terribly accurate. I've not tried tuning it, and I've figured out many smiths don't want to work on them, I guess due to soft action parts.
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So what will it cost to get into a decent FAL these days.?
Still recommending DSA.?
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DSA are pretty much the standard by which all other commercial FAL's are judged against.
I've been out of the game so long that I don't know what they're selling for.
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That one of mine on the first page of this thread was constructed from an Imbel kit that I paid $89.95 for and an Imbel gear logo receiver that I paid $189.95 for.
That was back in the good old days,...about 2002, or so.
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Stay away. FAR. AWAY. The newer G2 DPMS 308's look promising but they are having some production ills. The cheapest G2 with the carbine gas system runs but trashes brass (probably overgassed). Supposedly the Recon runs great. Good luck finding one right now. You'll likely pay list price like at Bass Pro. They get a Recon in and its gone that day.
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