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Has anyone here had any dots installed by T.K.Lee? I am considering having dots installed in a Leupold vx1 rimfire scope. My idea is to have dots installed for 50,75 and 100 yards. Any ideas on what dot sizes to use? The scope will be mounted onto a cz452 american for use on tree squirrels. I will shoot the rifle at the various ranges so I can inform TK Lee of the various drops needed.

Wow.

I have never hunted "tree squirrels" (are there any other kind?), but have used scopes with dots for woodchuck hunting-and think they are great.

Pick a dot to "cover the head" of your squirrel quarry at 50 and 100 yards. Presume that your 22 ammo drops 6 inches at 100 yards, from a 50 yard zero (need to know the amount of drop).

Presume a 2" distance from the squirrel's nose to ear hole.
50 yards: 4 moa dot = 2 inches at 50 yards
100 yards: 2 moa dot = 2 inches at 100 yards

You'd have 3 moa of "open vertical" reticle wire betweent the two dots, if you set the 100 yard dot at 6 moa below 50 yard zero (cross hair intersection). You probably don't need a 75 yard dot, just use the other dots as range finders, and use a little "kentucky elevation."

Or, use 2 moa dots for 50 and 100 yards. This will leave 4 moa "open vertical wire" between the dots. The troubles you my find is:
a). You have more dots than available vertical space (for dots that are easily visible in dark woods).
b). If you use too small a dot (to allow for "more vertical room"), the dots will be hard to see in dark woods.
c). The 75 yard dot won't be evenly spaced between the 50 and 100 yard dots. The drop of bullet impact is parabolic, and will have less drop between 50-75 yards, than 75-100 yard settings. If you presume a bullet drop of 6 inches at 100 yars, from a 50 yard setting (standard velocity ammo at 1080 fps, which is more acccurate than high velocity 22 LR ammo), the 75 yard setting may only be 2.0-2.5 inches below the 50 yard zero, not an evenly split of 3 inches (half of the 100 yard bullet drop of 6 inches).

If this is the case for your ammo, you can use a bigger dot at 50 yards (ie 4 moa), which would not only cover ("fit inside") the squirrel's head, and permit "precise enough aiming", but it would also serve as the 75 yard zero. How? Use the bottom of the 50 yard's setting with a 4 moa dot. The bottom half (6 o'clock position of the dot) of the "50 yard 4 moa dot" would subtend 3 moa at 75 yards. Use this as your ~75 yard aiming point.

You don't need (or want) tiny dots to make "precise hunting shots." Dots in the range of 0.5 or 0.25 SOUND like a good "precise" idea for sniping squirrels, but in hunting you have to focus on being pragmatic. Bigger is better for dots (up to a point)-especially in dark woods.

Sounds like a fun project. Good luck. Let us know what you decide on for a set up.

I have used TK Lee (Michael O'Donnell) to install dots in 4 or 5 scopes over the years. He's great to work with. www.scopedot.com

Here's what i have on my Ruger Charger, and a link to the thread on it--



http://24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/5589990/1

bamaguy,

Don't for get to sight in at the angle you plan to shoot. Things will certainly be different if you angle the rifle up very much.

Maybe some math guy will chime in and help us out here.

Triangulation ain't exactly new. Rewow.

Dump the rimfire 4x and go with:

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-...flescopes/vx-ii-3-9x33mm-ultralight-efr/

One dot and twist the dial if necessary. Makes life mucho easier.

Leupold makes a two or three different size dots. From small target up to about 3in if I remember correctly.