Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Muzzleloaders ID. Needed! Orig., repro, or kit?

I apologize for the pictures but I'm not in possession of the gun. Hope to be if it is determined to be of value!


http://s1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb385/hemisboats/flint/

Thanks everyone!

Can't really tell as I couldn't enlarge the pics. 1st impression is original.

Same here. Much better/larger pics needed to even attempt an ID.

The LOCK appears to be original. Can't tell much else. Carbine bar and short stocked. The lock looks like a miquelet which was a forrunner of the "french" lock,aka flintlock as we know it. Straight frizzen and almost no gooseneck on the cock. Miquelets WERE used quite a bit on early cavalry carbines.

Here are some better ones. I have a few more but I must run.

http://s1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb385/hemisboats/flint/flint2/

Thanks
Neal

The second link allows for enlarge pictures. Double click on the first and view in sequence. My take is of an original firearm that has the metal cleaned up and the stock refinished. The condition of the pan and associated structure lead me to be skeptical about the bore condition. The clean up may make it look appealing to those unfamiliar with such arms but it adversely affects value. A few of the pictures show signs of wire brush use in the clean up.

.02 cents worth of my opinion.

I agree with DD. Someone cleaned a lot of rust off the old firearm and the stock looks almost too slick. They also cleaned off some value. Looks as if a forearm "might" be missing but that is pure speculation on my part.

The double headed eagle stamped on the lock plate is a clue. That heraldic symbol was used by the Holy Roman Empire up until it was dissolved in 1806, and retained thereafter by the Austrian Empire and several Germanic states. If I were a betting man, I would say it was an Austrian musketoon issued to cavalry and dragoons, Napoleonic Era, which somebody "sporterized". Too bad the stock is cut down and everything cleaned up.