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Hey Gang,
I've read that the Federal Nyclad 129gr HP "Chief's load" is the best potential stopper for use with a snub-nosed revolver. I've also heard that it's a LE only round. Is the Federal HydraShock Tactical +P 129 gr HP load the same? Any recommendations?
Also, do you know if performance through a 4" barrel would be much poorer with a round designed for snubs?
Thanks!
JJ
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Two completely different bullets. The Nyclad is a (non +P) 125gr lead bullet with a nylon coating to keep it from fouling. The 129 is a +P jacketed bullet. The Nyclad is good out of a snubby but I carry either Corbon DPX or Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel +P 135gr. It is made for snubbies.
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Thanks UP!
What am I thinking of? I thought there was a Federal "Chief's Load" that was not available to the public. Is that the +P HP you're talking about?
JJ
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I like the Buffalo Bore stuff ![[Linked Image]](http://www.buffalobore.com/images/products/detail_108_20a-150.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.buffalobore.com/images/products/detail_109_20b-150.jpg)
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Hornady Critical Defense is getting good reviews
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Speer Gold Dot short barrel. It was designed for use out of short barrel weapons. Available in semi-auto, calibers also.
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Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel +P 135gr. is my preferred as it has enough punch but lower muzzle blast and flash than other loads.
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Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel +P 135gr. is my preferred as it has enough punch but lower muzzle blast and flash than other loads. Gotta go with TLEE on this one.
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I also carry the Gold Dots....Russ
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Don't carry a .38 Special very often but when I do it is with Corbon Powr'Ball... It is also what I carry daily in my .38 Super...
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Hornady Critical Defense is getting good reviews I still haven't heard of any shootings with it. I know that when Hornady did a demonstration for MI DNR of 40S&W CD, they ended it when the ammo didn't perform the way that it was supposed to.
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Thanks UP!
What am I thinking of? I thought there was a Federal "Chief's Load" that was not available to the public. Is that the +P HP you're talking about?
JJ I believe that the standard pressure Nyclad load was called that. When it came out in the '90's, the J-frames weren't rated for +P yet.
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38 Spl +P lead hollowpoint. Winchester, Remington or Federal.
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Thanks Guys! You gave me plenty of good ideas. So much to do and so little time!
JJ
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Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel +P 135gr. is my preferred as it has enough punch but lower muzzle blast and flash than other loads. Gotta go with TLEE on this one. Another +1 on that load.
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I haven't seen that Speer short barrel .38 stuff available for a long time. Seems to be constantly on back order, with lead times unknown.
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In the past I have carried 158 gr.+P LHP (which i still think is a good choice), 125 gr. Nyclad, Hydrashoks,and right now Critical defense. I have tested them all in our standard testing medium (2 1/2 gal. water jugs) and I'm pretty sure you don't want to get shot with any of them.
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Thanks UP!
What am I thinking of? I thought there was a Federal "Chief's Load" that was not available to the public. Is that the +P HP you're talking about?
JJ J-Frame Smiths (Chiefs Special model 36 and Chiefs Special Stainless model 60) were not rated for +P ammo until 1996. If you have a Model 36-9 or 60-9 then you have one that is engineered to handle +P ammo; earlier Chiefs Specials were not designed for the hotter +P loadings and, long term at least, one would probably be better off not subjecting their J-Frame pistols to heavy loads.
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nor were the Colt Detective Special, Cobra, Diamondback and Agent...at least not the older ones...and at least for a steady diet...I use the Federal 125GR standard velocity Nyclad in those and the +P stuff for my newer 642-2...
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The best 38 Spl load I have ever seen is the FBI Win 158 gr Lead SWHP. I have seen three people shot with this load and they where DOA. believe me it works. It was the standard every other 38 Spl was judged against a few years back or i should say about 40 years back. My carry load in my 38's is the Speer 3/4 Jacket HP with Unique.
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