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The .30/06 is fine for long range hunting. I have used it on pronghorn at hold over ranges and it is great.
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I'm thinking that to take a cow elk, you're not going to have to shoot anywhere near 500 or 600 yards. That is whay I think too, unless he is wanting to shoot that far. I'd zero for MPBR on an 8" target diameter (gives a little wiggle room) which should get you close to 300+ yards depending on speed and bullet. Then I'd practice from field positions out as far as your local range will let you go. You'll know by the time you go on your hunt what distance you can comfortably shoot.
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My pet .30-06 is a 24" commercial Mauser from the 50s with a custom English style stock. I don't know who made it (bench marked "H within a diamond just behind the silver grip cap.) Several years ago I found that 180 Hornady Light magnums worked well for both velocity and good enough hunting accuracy, and I bought a bunch of them. Friend's Chrony shows just over 2900. I am about out and glad of it. The last Mule deer I shot with it was a little over 200, going away and about to go over a ridge when I shot. A true Texas heart shot as there was no entry wound. The deer's pelvis was destroyed but so was the bullet. I shot him again in the neck as he tried to crawl away. The bonded bullets in their newer Super Performance ammo should be better, or I may go to Accubonds or Partitions loading my own. I still have a small stash of H205, and I can easily duplicate the 2900 velocity. jack
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I listened to Rodney Carrington and a song he wrote that is the same as this topic only slightly different.
this topic: " I got a Dirty ott six with a short old barrel that wont shoot long range.... hubba, hubba,hubba hey !!!!!
Original: "I got a 12" dick and a dozen roses, and a pick-up truck....hubba, hubba,hubba hey !!!!!
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Hey! I resemble that remark! 
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Shooting long range is fun but it is even more fun to be able to say you spotted the animal from half a mile and stalked within 100,200, or 300 yards of it. Practice your shooting Winnie but dont forget the sneakin' skills are a very important factor of being successful.
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My pet .30-06 is a 24" commercial Mauser from the 50s with a custom English style stock. I don't know who made it (bench marked "H within a diamond just behind the silver grip cap.) Several years ago I found that 180 Hornady Light magnums worked well for both velocity and good enough hunting accuracy, and I bought a bunch of them. Friend's Chrony shows just over 2900. I am about out and glad of it. The last Mule deer I shot with it was a little over 200, going away and about to go over a ridge when I shot. A true Texas heart shot as there was no entry wound. The deer's pelvis was destroyed but so was the bullet. I shot him again in the neck as he tried to crawl away. The bonded bullets in their newer Super Performance ammo should be better, or I may go to Accubonds or Partitions loading my own. I still have a small stash of H205, and I can easily duplicate the 2900 velocity. jack You should post a pic of that rifle. Bob Hagel used to have a "H" on his riles. You may have something unique there.
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Winnie how is the practice going? I have seen an 18" .308 get multiple hits at 1000 on a 12" gong so the ballistics of a short barreled 30-06 will not be an issue.
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Here's how I'm running my 24" 300 Win Mag out to 500 yards. 3.5 X10 X40 BDC Reticle. Leupold 1 piece base and rings, Chet Brown stock.reasonable, works, a proven preformer. 180 AB's or Partition will work great
A 16 power scope is not necessary, elk are big and easy to see. Most of your shots will be at 200 or less
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I've never shot an Elk, but that 150 grainer at 06 velocities won't cut it at 600yd, best utilised at 400 and under with impact velocities over 2400 for dramatic wounding on game in the 200-300lb mark.
180gr partion would be my pick driven as fast as you can, great within 400 and adequate to 700 for game of that size.
If you do opt for the lighter pills aim for the neck or brush up on your tracking skills.
Good luck
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You pretty much lost me on the "I've never shot an elk", but if it hadn't been for that part you'd of lost me for sure on the later part..  Dober
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That was a peach of a post.....
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I've never shot an Elk, but that 150 grainer at 06 velocities won't cut it at 600yd, best utilised at 400 and under with impact velocities over 2400 for dramatic wounding on game in the 200-300lb mark.
180gr partion would be my pick driven as fast as you can, great within 400 and adequate to 700 for game of that size.
If you do opt for the lighter pills aim for the neck or brush up on your tracking skills.
Good luck You're the official winner of the biggest bullschit post of the day award. That's quite the honor with Jayco and Swampy also active. Congratulations?
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... Unless you are rich and can afford a Swaro Z6 or the like, I'd say forget a scope with 12x or 16x on the top end; it'll compromise (or not even have!) the lower end, 3x-4x, which is arguably more important. ... I'd agree ... but there are a gobs of 4-12x options out there. VX-II or 3200 4-12x or .... and live happily ever after.
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Originally Posted By: Jeff_O
... Unless you are rich and can afford a Swaro Z6 or the like, I'd say forget a scope with 12x or 16x on the top end; it'll compromise (or not even have!) the lower end, 3x-4x, which is arguably more important. ... I'd agree ... but there are a gobs of 4-12x options out there. VX-II or 3200 4-12x or .... and live happily ever after. If you boys ever get over to Grants Pass, give call and I will let you get a look of 3X and 4X with a 4 1/2-30X and a 5-25X. If you accept the truth, you will tell me 3X and 4X are about as clear and bright as anything you have.
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I've never shot an Elk, but that 150 grainer at 06 velocities won't cut it at 600yd, best utilised at 400 and under with impact velocities over 2400 for dramatic wounding on game in the 200-300lb mark.
180gr partion would be my pick driven as fast as you can, great within 400 and adequate to 700 for game of that size.
If you do opt for the lighter pills aim for the neck or brush up on your tracking skills.
Good luck Loving the "wisdom" in this post. Admits to not shooting an elk--no telling where he has stretched the truth; wonder has he ever fired an '06...
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Assuming an altitude around 2500 and 50 degrees, at 600 yards you'll only be at 1870 fps and 1164 lbs of energy. Getting really weak for elk at that range. But... what I'd be more concerned with is field accuracy (not off a bench at the range) and ability to read and adjust for wind.
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22 will work for 600 but youll be better at 500 AND get 165 or 168 BTSP ammo or 168 VLD ammo. It makes it lot easier to reach out. My wifes 22" Sav 111 is zeroed at 425 and Im sure she can do 500 easy. Altho a 24"bbl is better, not a lot of 30-06 have 26" but they are out there and would be even better. Or mobetter. Good luck.
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You pretty much lost me on the "I've never shot an elk", but if it hadn't been for that part you'd of lost me for sure on the later part.. Dober Intresting comments. Elk is a deer just like all the other deer species of the world it's the size of the animal, projectile and caliber relationship that counts. An 150gr ttsx won't do [bleep] all at 600yd unless hit in the head or neck. You will wound the animal and it will run away to die a miserable death. Love to see any pics of an elk being hit with that projy and wouldn't it be nice to see the autopsy of said Elk as well, some real study of bullet performance, but hey if your google search skills are any good you may just come across something.
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I've never shot an Elk, but that 150 grainer at 06 velocities won't cut it at 600yd, best utilised at 400 and under with impact velocities over 2400 for dramatic wounding on game in the 200-300lb mark.
180gr partion would be my pick driven as fast as you can, great within 400 and adequate to 700 for game of that size.
If you do opt for the lighter pills aim for the neck or brush up on your tracking skills.
Good luck You're the official winner of the biggest bullschit post of the day award. That's quite the honor with Jayco and Swampy also active. Congratulations? As for you [bleep] head you amuse me with your ignorance and stupidity
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