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WHat!? A perp was struck by an officer of the law ???
After he raised his hand to strike him???

What's next ?
A screen test?



( you know... when you handcuff a perp and tosshim in the back of the squad car. And then while racing at a high rate of speed, the officer must slam on the brakes to avoid a ..
deer or small child in the road..
the the perp tests the strength of the screen
With his face.

thats a mighty wide brush you're paintin with there.

I watched the video, I think the cop coulda gotten away with the first hit saying he took it as a threatening move. the beating following it, nope. the cop is the one who escalated it, not the perp. there is a reason they train through scenarios all the time, in order to be able to make the right judgement call.

he made the wrong call, but it could be seen why, but only if it had ended there. looks like he had a chip on his shoulder and was pissed at the guy. maybe he was having a bad day, who knows. but when 2 big dudes have one guy on the ground, there should be no reason to kidney punch him over and over when trying to cuff him.

I never stated, that the officer, did the right thing. If the officer believed that the person was being aggressive towards him, he had other ways to deal with it, that would stand up better in court.

The officer had the camera to his advantage, until he struck him, he then lost that advantage.

The camera doesn't tell you what was said.
The guys mouth was probably asking to be shut.
With force!

Thug with a badge. Stop justifying poor behavior or the next victim may be you.

Good thing this guy didn't scratch his balls, you would have justified a shooting.

Oh and do yourself a favor, don't get a CC permit, it's obvious your sense of immediate threat is whacked and you'll end up being Bubba's bunk mate for blowing away some kid for reaching into his pocket for his car keys.

That's how it was done years ago. But it's all changed to a kindier, gentlier, concept. Eventhough society hasn't gotten kindier & gentlier.

That really doesn't happen, that's just a rumor.

That is an excellent post and one I appreciate.

More likely, an average guy that couldn't control his emotions, and shouldn't be a cop.

Possibly. Either way, he gives good cops, a bad name and needs to be gone.

Agreed. Many cops don't survive the tests of the profession and unfortunately, nothing but the job itself can provide those tests.

Thanks Ed. I don't know where I'd be without you reminding me its gonna be alright, every now and then.

And THAT is EXACTLY the problem. I can't count the number of times I'v seen 'Cops' or some other such show and particularly the high speed chase scenes where the perps goes racing and crashing through residential areas endangering countless others. Invariably the perp gets cornered and taken down and cuffed and relatively calmly arrested. Now... I understand the cameras are rolling and I understand I'm just watching TV and I'm a pretty calm personality by most's standards, yet I get so worked up I invariably find myself saying "How in the world do they not beat that idiot to within an inch of his life!" That is generally followed up with the proclamation "Just another one of many reasons I could never be a cop!"
So to your point above, the "average guy" should not be a cop. It takes someone cut from a different and yes 'better' cloth. The problem is all too often the 'average guy' and even the 'sub average guy' are hired and then are on the side of the thin blue line that buys then a level of deference from their brothers in uniform that is simply unconscionable to those of us that pay them to 'protect and serve'. A little self policing of their own ranks and properly placed public scorn of those who fall short would do more for their public image than any 8 figure marketing campaign.

Managing police is like managing whitetail bucks... where you start is where you stop. You should count your blessings when you ever get one better than what meets the absolute minimal qualification.

That's O.K. DINK will be along shortly to defend the cops.

Dear Lord... THAT is hardly encouraging....

Oh...I could defend him by pointing out that the guy might have just told the officer that he had a knife in his pocket and was going to slit his throat, and the officer acted in a decisive mannor. The reality of the business is that if this even were the case, you can't survive a career looking bad.

Thank you Lt. Powell. That means more to me than you will know.

More than likely the dude was drunk and was pretty provocative with mouth and waving his hands. If the video showed the cop getting hit first two things would have happened; 1) 6 cops would have kicked the crap out of the dude and, 2) people would say that its part of being on the job.