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I'm planning on building a .375 Taylor. I've been able to track down the following used actions for sub 500.
Pre-64 Win model 70 Tang Safety Ruger MkII
Sako AV for $700
Or for $900 a new Stiller Predator.
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The 375 Chatfield-Taylor came about in the days when there were few magnum length actions around, but std length 98s were plentiful. The 375CT will fit into an std 98 w/o a lot of alterations. Any action would work fine. I used a 700 for mine and am quite happy with that. I'm never going to fight elephants with it so the CRF vs PF debate is moot. I personally would not spent $700-900 on an action for this project. A Ruger, commercial FN or similar 98, 700, or M70 will do just fine.
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Furthermore ....
When figuring out dimensions, keep your bbl length 21"-22", your forend at 9" to look right with the shorter bbl and your total weight with scope around 8.75lbs.
Trust me ... It will handle well, carry well and look "right" too.
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Gotta go with the Pre
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I'd have to go with the pre '64 too.. EZEARL....yeah, I think a HVA 1640 would work like a champ. They are usually as slick as a cats backside.
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Gotta go with the Pre
Dober What difference is there between a modern Win 70 CRF and the Pre-64 besides action screw spacing and bolt construction?
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Gotta go with the Pre
Dober What difference is there between a modern Win 70 CRF and the Pre-64 besides action screw spacing and bolt construction? Integral feed rails on the pre64 vs mag box on the Classic ; all parts are steel on the pre 64, spring steel vs MIM extractor(no biggie you can get good after market stuff for the Classic)...some other stuff. Either will work....depends on what your smith wants.My last build in a mag caliber, my smith said "Classic!"....so Classic it was.... Either should suit your needs...
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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As SC hints at, you are best to try to find a standard 30-06 length action for the Taylor-Chatfield to my mind. There is no reason you couldn't put it in a magnum length action, but it just seems to defeat the purpose of the cartridge. As i understand it, the Taylor-Chatfield is just the .338 WM necked up to .375. And the .338 is a shortened .375 H&H. So what you have with the .375 Taylor Chatfield is essentially just a shortened (and a little improved) .375 H&H to fit through a standard/non-magnum length action. So the idea of putting in an action designed to fit the .375 H&H anyway seems a bit odd. My understanding is all pre-'64 M70 are 375 H&H length, just with magazine and bolt stop modifications.
The entire reason d'etre of the Taylor-Chatfield is its ability to fit into the 30-06 length action. If you are going to use a magnum length action anyway, the question as i see it, is why not just use the 375 H&H instead? If you want a Taylor-Chatfield, i think it deserves to be in a 30-06 length mauser action. There is very little difference in length between a 30-06 length and magnum length action, so it is of little practical significance, but a .375 Taylor-Chatfield on an action designed for .375 H&H just seems to lack a degree of "intellectual integrity" that i seem to require in a big bore rifle with the traditions that go with them.
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My understanding is all pre-'64 M70 are 375 H&H length, just with magazine and bolt stop modifications.
Well, sort of.....any pre 64 30/06 receiver is long enough for the H&H rounds,but only after they did additional machining to a standard 30/06 length action,to lengthen the port, loading ramp,did receiver cutouts on the rear bridge,including the inside so that the magnum case head would clear on ejection,and machined the rails.....in addition to a longer and different box, follower,ejector, etc. All this might have changed the hole spacing somewhat but I can't recall;the middle screw may be set back slightly. Bottom line is the Taylor can fit a 30/06 mag box nicely without anything other than mag bolt face and of course make sure it feed/functions on those 30/06 rails......but if you are carrying a pre 64 30/06 length action, you are already carrying enough action length for a 375H&H,assuming you do all the machine work to it. This goes doubly so for the Classic action,which is already H&H length as it comes.....just uses magazine blocks and different parts etc to set up for 30/06 length cartridges.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I went with the modern Winchester classic CRF action. Should be here in a few days. I'll replace the stock extractor with a williams right away and then save my pennies up to have Pac Nor true up the action and throw a #4 profile tube on it for me.
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I'd go w/ a commercial '98 mauser action.
I don't see the point of doing this cartridge in an H&H-length action, but to each his own.
I've got a commercial mauser action on my bench downstairs and this is a cartridge I've thought many times BELONGED in that action.
So many choices, so little time (and money!)!!!!!!
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I'd go w/ a commercial '98 mauser action.
I don't see the point of doing this cartridge in an H&H-length action, but to each his own. I agree, but I would probably go with the Ruger M77 action (for the same reason).
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Supposedly yes. Husqvarna built the model 1651 on that action and chambered it in the powerful .358 Norma magnum. That cartridge is not much different from the .375 Taylor - in fact the latter can be considered as a .358NM/375 wildcat. The bolt face and the feeding would have to be adapted f�r the Taylor magnum cartridge, if a standard 1640 action is being used. Pete
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I'd just buy a .375 Ruger and be done with it.
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I'd just buy a .375 Ruger and be done with it. or have the Ruger cartridge chambered in a M-70 action!
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I'd just buy a .375 Ruger and be done with it. or have the Ruger cartridge chambered in a M-70 action! And be stuck with the supply/demand problem of only having 1 manufacturer making my brass. 338 Win Mag Brass is abundant.
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