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The 100 gr. BTips are great killers. I load 25-06 stuff for a pal that has used 'em for deer (smart and dumb species), antelope and black bear. Bang, flop.  -Al
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Bullet performance is still the main deciding factor in any bullet I'd choose. But at the same time, if I can get the performance I want for less cost, I'll take it. Tom
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Thanks, Zapper.
My "prejudice" is out in the field observation, using the older series of NBT's. I plan to get some new ones and give'em a whirl.
Are the newer ones as accurate as the older ones? Mine have produced some pretty fine groups.
DF My friend, the accuracy of the "new" Ballistics is at least as excellent as the old ones ... in a word, SUPERB. You will love them. Steve
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Contributors on the Fire were trying to get me interested in the NBT's in my .240 Wby. I was thinking, smaller bullet, much faster, and remembering my .300 Win Mag experience with 180 gr. NBT's, no way. With the heavier jackets, makes more sense.
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Besides cost, what advantage does the BT have over the AB? Tony in my opinion you'll get much more consistant expansion from the BT at extreme long distance shooting than the AB.
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Bullet performance is still the main deciding factor in any bullet I'd choose. But at the same time, if I can get the performance I want for less cost, I'll take it. Tom For hunting, bullet price (within reason) doesn't bother me. I don't mind shooting expensive bullets, because I won't shoot that many of them. It's performance I want, even if it cost a buck or two. DF
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Dirtfarmer, While not being pushed as fast as a 240 Wby does, 95gr BTs from my 243 have worked great on the few pronghorns I've used them on. Ranges of 80, 140, and 280 yards. Tom
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Thanks, Tom.
I'm going to start this deer season with 80 gr. TTSX's and Barnes' accuracy load of 52.5 gr. Hunter at 3,600+ fps. I shot one group in the fours at a hundred, several in the .5"-.6" range. I'll get some of the new NBT's and see how they do. It shot .5" with 95 gr. SST's, but I have more faith in the TTSX's.
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whichever works best in your rifle
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whichever works best in your rifle I had several good bullets shooting around 1/2". These included the 90 SSII, 95 SST, 80 TTSX, and 85 TSX. NPT's weren't as accurate, 85, 90, and 100 gr. grouping around 1 1/4"-1 1/2". I guess that's a good problem to have. The 80 TTSX had one group slightly better than the others and I'll start with it. DF
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Besides cost, what advantage does the BT have over the AB? Tony in my opinion you'll get much more consistant expansion from the BT at extreme long distance shooting than the AB. Since the OP was considering elk it would seem the AB might be a better pick should either a 25 or 300 yard (BTDT) shot present itself. Surely the AB will kill the whitetail out at 400 yards as well, no?
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In the last 3 years I have shot 3 buck deer and some does with 180 Partitions/300WSM. Minimus meat damage and of course all the deer died. They happen to be the most accurate bullet I have shot in either WSM, and I have tried over a dozen.
FWIW, 175SMK's and 175 Nosler CC's match up great as a practice bullet. Sure as hell ain't gonna waste PT's killing gongs!
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I would seriously look into 165's as they seem to have a bit better trajectory and give up little horse power to the 180 at '06 velocities. $.02
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Ballistic Tip vs Accubond vs Partition. All 30 caliber. 180 grains. Game ranging from deer (mostly) to lets say elk size. Ranges from 30 to 350 yards. Muzzle velocity 2700ish. Understanding that the BTs in 180 grain are "tougher" than lighter weights, from what I have read. How much difference, performance wise on game, could I expect? Kind of looking for a do it all, one load for a 30-06. Considering that Ballistic Tips are close to half the price of the other two bullets, which means more and cheaper practice. Thanks, Tom. For your needs a good ol 165 gr. Hornady interlock BTSP or regular SP will work for about half the price of the ballistic tips. Run them around 2800-2900 and you're golden.....You can use them for practice and hunting. Just my .02
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I used the Hornady 180 SPBT Interlocked in my .30-'06 on my last safari to Afrika. The performance was superb and I killed everything from impala to a 1069kg (2,352-pound) eland.
Each of my customers required a single Hornady bullet each and every one was an instant BANG-FLOP. If memory serves, I believe I killed 29 critters on this extended safari and I fired precisely 29 cartridges ... not a single animal moved a foot.
The Hornady Interlocked bullet at standard cartridge speeds is an incredible performer.
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+3 on the Interlocks! Have used them for years and have yet to be dissapointed, and they're cheap too.
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I have used AB 180 gr with good results.
I am curious about how IB and Scirocco II behave, will test them for grouping when weather gets a bit warmer in spring.
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What would be your choice among the same three Noslers in 165s?
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I Practice with Ballistic tips and hunt with Accubonds
That which does not kill us makes us stronger
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