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I like the 90 degree bolt on my weatherby ultra-lite, but it is push feed and I want a controlled feed bolt with a 90 degree bolt. Does someone make such an action?

It's not available yet, but the "Model 264" looks promising. Might be worth keeping an eye on this link:

http://www.americangunllc.com/catalog3.htm

Edit: I see you are looking for just the bolt. My bad...

good link, thanks

Handle a Kimber 84M. They are also a lightweight and with that small action I don't notice the bolt's turn angle as they cycle easy for me.

The Kimber has CRF of course and its made here in the USA!

I like the Kimbers three position safety that controls the firing pin.

http://www.kimberamerica.com/rifles/model-84m



The lightest production hunting rifle available today

I am looking at a 300 or a 338 for my build. I have been told they can turn a push feed into a controlled feed bolt with a little machine work and an added extractor.

Do what?
Butch

Browning makes rifles with the 90 degree bolt throw. Weatherby makes them too. But I am looking for one with the 90 degree bolt throw and controlled feed. Not sure if anyone makes an action with both.

Most bolt guns have a 90 degree bolt throw.I believe browning and weatherby have a 45 degree bolt throw.

I think you are a bit confused. Any mauser-type action will have CRF with 90 degree bolt lift (including ruger Mk II and hawkeye, Kimber and Winchester M70). A weatherby ultralight is on a mark V action, so it is just a 54 degree lift. All true CRF rifles are 90 degree/two lug designs, due to the large, full-length claw extractor. A compromise between a degree of CRF and reduced bolt lift is the three lug sako 85 action, which uses a smaller "sako-type" extractor and mechanical blade-type ejector. It has an approximately 70 degree bolt lift, and achieves a high degree of smoothness of operation - comparable with the weatherby mark V, and inherently better than you can achieve with a more traditional mauser action which tend to exhibit the typical "mauser bolt wobble" (which is pretty minimal in the best mauser actions).

Personally, i think the sako is a good compromise, and provides the most important features that a CRF action should provide in a hunting rifle. Firstly, it has a very good extraction system - there is a reason why many folks copy the sako extractor. Secondly, and this is the one that is often missed but was central to Paul Mauser's design (and perhaps more important to him than the avoidance of double-feeding of the action, as he was designing a military rifle where ammunition capacity and reliable operation where paramount), it picks up cartridges from a staggered magazine but then places them directly into the centre of the breech. Of course, there are plenty of push-feed designs that use a staggered magazine that have no problems, but i have always liked the idea of controlled-feed for staggered magazines. It is consistant with smooth operation (and debateably, enhanced accuracy). In a push-feed rifle, i rather feed from the midline - which tends to reduce ammuntion capacity by a shot or two for a given magazine size. Most of the time, this doesn't matter in a hunting rifle.

To really understand the sako action, you have to understand that they were looking for a compromise between light weight, smoothness of operation, ammuntion and accuracy. The sako to my mind is the design that best achieves this compromise.

I believe weatherby mkv are 54 degrees and browning is a 60 degree.

The Remington 700 and pre-'64 Winchester 70 have CRF and 90* bolt lift. Also the Dakota 76.

Yea that the right bolt lift 60 degree. I am confused.