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The first so called game of the century was a snoozer and I will find something else to watch during the rematch. I guess you really don't like football. The first game was a great game a real nail biter. 2 evenly matched teams going at it and the first team to blink looses.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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This, hopefully, will be one of the final nails in the BCS coffin.
In '03, there were several coaches (Saban among them) that flatly said that unless a team wins it's own conference, they shouldn't have a shot at the title. Hint: Oklahoma that year, whilst Auburn sat out.
And, 444Matt, PM sent...
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Good point VA. Herbstriet's suggestion of a ceded +1 is very do-able.
4 teams with 3 games won't kill anybody and the rest get to play in bowls as well..
BTW, How did Stanford finish ahead of Oregon?
JM
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Stanford finished ahead of Oregon by virtue of having one loss instead of two, and the BCS/NCAA being in love with Andrew Luck.
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Good point VA. Herbstriet's suggestion of a ceded +1 is very do-able.
4 teams with 3 games won't kill anybody and the rest get to play in bowls as well..
BTW, How did Stanford finish ahead of Oregon?
JM Actually, an 8 team tourney would be just 3 games. The time has come.
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8 conference champs. Win your conference, and you get a shot at the title.
Pretty simple, really.
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Good point VA. Herbstriet's suggestion of a ceded +1 is very do-able.
4 teams with 3 games won't kill anybody and the rest get to play in bowls as well..
BTW, How did Stanford finish ahead of Oregon?
JM Actually, an 8 team tourney would be just 3 games. The time has come. My post was there would be 3 games in total. The entire playoff with 4 teams would be a 3 game affair. 1 vs. 4 and 2 vs. 3. The winners play each other for the NC. Sneak this in to get it started and then when someone get's screwed again, it can be easily expanded. Gotta start with small changes.
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Good point VA. Herbstriet's suggestion of a ceded +1 is very do-able.
4 teams with 3 games won't kill anybody and the rest get to play in bowls as well..
BTW, How did Stanford finish ahead of Oregon?
JM Actually, an 8 team tourney would be just 3 games. The time has come. My post was there would be 3 games in total. The entire playoff with 4 teams would be a 3 game affair. 1 vs. 4 and 2 vs. 3. The winners play each other for the NC. Sneak this in to get it started and then when someone get's screwed again, it can be easily expanded. Gotta start with small changes. I don't follow your math. Oh well, I aint the brightest bulb in the shed.
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Ah I get it! 3 Games in total.
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Gotta start small and the the playoff system will take root and grow.
Just getting one in is all you can hope for now.
A top 4 team ceded run will get the ball rolling.
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That's exactly what the BCS rejected in 2008. Top 4 teams matched in 2 end of season bowls, followed by (IIRC) the winners and losers paired in 2 final bowls to determine final rankings 1 thru 4. Ends up with the top 4 playing 1 additional game. Think the PAC 12 and Big 12 may want to revisit the subject?
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Good point VA. Herbstriet's suggestion of a ceded +1 is very do-able.
4 teams with 3 games won't kill anybody and the rest get to play in bowls as well..
BTW, How did Stanford finish ahead of Oregon?
JM Actually, an 8 team tourney would be just 3 games. The time has come. I agree that the time has come, but an 8 team tourney would have three rounds, not three games. Four games in the first round, two games in the second round and one game in the final round, for a total of 7 games.
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Yep, three rounds and 7 games. I got a little confused. lol
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8 conference champs. Win your conference, and you get a shot at the title.
Pretty simple, really. But, but, but ... that doesn't guarantee the eight best teams in the country (as determined by popular vote).
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I guess I think a conferences strength should play more of a role in determining who gets a shot.
IE. A 1 loss team that loses to a season long, undefeated #1 in overtime should not be excluded from a playoff because they reside in the same conference.
Should a #23 ranked West Virginia get to go to a playoff while Bama sits at home?
but, but, but...
ugh.
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My ideal solution would be to have a computer decide on the top 8 teams to set the tourney field. That would take conference strength out of the equation.
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What a bummer, was hoping to watch the BCS national championship game but I just can't bring myself to watch this one. I don't see either team lighten up the other on the scoreboard either.
Will be a good time to finish remodeling my guest bathroom, something i've put off for far too long.
That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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Beats watching just 1 team light up the scoreboard.
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I guess I think a conferences strength should play more of a role in determining who gets a shot.
IE. A 1 loss team that loses to a season long, undefeated #1 in overtime should not be excluded from a playoff because they reside in the same conference.
Should a #23 ranked West Virginia get to go to a playoff while Bama sits at home?
but, but, but...
ugh. Yes, they should. Just like the playoffs at any other level of football. Add in a wildcard round, if necessary, but a playoff system works in every other level of football, and in every other sport. D-1A college football is not some mystical sport that sets it apart.
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That's true but we will never know for sure how a few of these other teams might have fared against LSU. People can talk all they want on how LSU or Bama would destroy all the other teams but until they actually do so on the football field, it's all just talk. That's why they play the game.
Anyhow, I think LSU will beat them again and win an undisputed NC.
That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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