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Can anyone here give a real world comparison of the Hornady 150 gr. SST vs the Remington 150 gr. Core-lokt factory loads for the .300 Savage ? I know the Core-lokt's work well on whitetail, how about the SST's ? Sorry if this is an old subject, I'm a newbie here. Thanks, Scott
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Hi Scott. Looks like you're getting missed. I'm sorry I can't help with this, but welcome to the forum. I know some of these guys have been shooting plain ol' bullets (Corelokts) forever, and they can speak to that. My experience with Corelokts is limited, being a handloader. I know they have an excellent reputation for accuracy, and the price is right, so would be good for practice anyhow, but also tons of deer killed with them. I shoot Hornady GMX in one caliber, but no SST. Welcome.
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The Superperformance line is so new you probably can't find anybody with enough experience using the 300 Savage ammo to get a very good feel for whether it's good or not. The SST's seem to be a perfectly good bullet for the velocity it's being used at, if it shoots well in your rifle I think it'd be fine for most deer hunting.
But I personally am a bit confused by the "Superperformance" label of the 150gr SST in 300 Savage.
It's listed as a muzzle velocity of 2740fps.
And yet the Remington 300 Savage 150gr Core-Lokt is listed at 2630fps. Same exact number for Federal and Winchester 150gr loads also.
Is 110fps extra REALLY enough to make it "Superperformance"?
The original 150gr loads back in the 20's were listed as 2700fps for the 300 Savage - duplicating the then commercial loads for 150gr 30-06 ammo. Were those old cartridges "Super"?
If 110fps does make something "Super".. Lyman manual lists Varget and 150gr bullets getting 2740fps also. Hornady manual shows IMR 4064 going above 2700fps as well. I can load up my own "Super" bullets for a lot less than $30+ per box. If you don't reload, use the ammo that shoots best in your rifle. That 110fps isn't enough to matter to a deer.
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The Superperformance line is so new you probably can't find anybody with enough experience using the 300 Savage ammo to get a very good feel for whether it's good or not. The SST's seem to be a perfectly good bullet for the velocity it's being used at, if it shoots well in your rifle I think it'd be fine for most deer hunting.
But I personally am a bit confused by the "Superperformance" label of the 150gr SST in 300 Savage.
It's listed as a muzzle velocity of 2740fps.
And yet the Remington 300 Savage 150gr Core-Lokt is listed at 2630fps. Same exact number for Federal and Winchester 150gr loads also.
Is 110fps extra REALLY enough to make it "Superperformance"?
The original 150gr loads back in the 20's were listed as 2700fps for the 300 Savage - duplicating the then commercial loads for 150gr 30-06 ammo. Were those old cartridges "Super"?
If 110fps does make something "Super".. Lyman manual lists Varget and 150gr bullets getting 2740fps also. Hornady manual shows IMR 4064 going above 2700fps as well. I can load up my own "Super" bullets for a lot less than $30+ per box. If you don't reload, use the ammo that shoots best in your rifle. That 110fps isn't enough to matter to a deer.
Jmho. good research and observations
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Especially when you consider that Oldgunsmith and I killed deer with cast lead bullets moving around 800fps slower...
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Indeed. That has always been tickling my interest, especially with the 375. I wouldn't really know how to begin to get shooting cast boolits.
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My 180gr Partitions probably aren't running more than 2250fps or so, and I've never had a deer complain. Would be great to get a faster bullet running 2700fps or 2900fps if I move up out of my creek bottom out into the open.
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My hunting pard used the 180 grain Superperformance .30-06 load on a whitetail this year. We were not impressed. The bullet entered half way back on the ribcage and ranged forward in to the off side shoulder. The 1-1/2 year old buck dropped at the shot (75 yards) but got up and went another 60 yards. The internal damage was great (lungs vaporized and top half of heart shreaded, all arteries off top of heart were gone), unfortunately the off side shoulder was all blood shot. The bullet did NOT exit. Granted it is going 2800 fps and that is plenty faster than the .300 S will go, but the experience has soured me to the SST. I am a big fan of Hornady Spires and RN bullets and will continue to use em.. I also like the Winchester power point for both accuracy and performance on deer.
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My hunting pard used the 180 grain Superperformance .30-06 load on a whitetail this year. We were not impressed. The bullet entered half way back on the ribcage and ranged forward in to the off side shoulder. The 1-1/2 year old buck dropped at the shot (75 yards) but got up and went another 60 yards. The internal damage was great (lungs vaporized and top half of heart shreaded, all arteries off top of heart were gone), unfortunately the off side shoulder was all blood shot. The bullet did NOT exit. Granted it is going 2800 fps and that is plenty faster than the .300 S will go, but the experience has soured me to the SST. I am a big fan of Hornady Spires and RN bullets and will continue to use em.. I also like the Winchester power point for both accuracy and performance on deer. Sounds like the deer you killed there was "Superformance", and the ammunition demolished him, expending all it's energy in the target. Hard to ask for more.
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