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Nazi's, What is the appeal? I read in another place where someone said the best ten generals of WW2 were 'german'. Another topic mentions Nazi tactics as being superior and another how Nazi weapons were better. What is the appeal of the Nazi's? It just seems to me that the Nazi's murdered thousands of children and woman in a cruel way, attacked unprepared countries, lost a war and got their country occupied by the enemy for half a century! Yet some go on lauding the Nazi. Why is that?
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Because some of the German generals were very good, German weaponry was often excellent, and the overall fighting record of the German soldier in that conflict was exemplary.
I can state these facts while still being apalled by the Nazi ideology and actions.
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It seems to me that a normal man would be ashamed to laud any part of the Nazi effort. That the Nazi's were only really good at torturing children, woman and those unprepared!
That when confronted with superior armies they not only lost the war, got killed but got their country taken over.
So pathetic.
You wrote: "German generals were very good"
Pathetic
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indeed, Birdwatcher hit the nail on the head.
the German army, and the Nazi war machine were very well run. despite their often horrific tactics, it is impossible to argue that they were effective. their superior weaponry and training made running over their closer opposition pretty easy giving them confidence, which can make or break an army.
the Nazi's would most likely be running Europe if we hadnt intervened. most people were too scared to stand up to them, however, thankfully, there were many who were not.
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I'd venture that any man who faced the German in combat in either world war has a high respect for his fighting abilities, his weapons and his generalship.
Like Birdwatcher said, the ideology of the Nazi and their genocidal tendencies were deplorable.
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guess your to dumb to separate facts from opinion and ideology.
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I suspect you already know the difference between the Nazi Party and the German Army without anyone having to explain it to you.
So, you're just in a pizzy mood, this morning, is that right?
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I suspect you already know the difference between the Nazi Party and the German Army without anyone having to explain it to you.
So, you're just in a pizzy mood, this morning, is that right?
I'd say that is about the size of it.
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Given the fact that we WERE allied with a far worse butcher that pov is less than sterling. Ability and skill was a hallmark of the German Military. I assure you that Germany was beaten more by absolutely overwhelming numbers of everything than any superiority in skills and weapons.
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*I* was the somebody that mentioned German military prowess and technological acumen. All the posts have pretty much beat down the idiocy of the question. BTW you might want to brush up on your grammar. Nazi's {sic} illustrates the possesive case and you meant the plural-Nazis.
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guess your to dumb to separate facts from opinion and ideology. Right on Roger... He thinks I'm a Nazi because of my avatar. Don the Dipstick once again shows how smart he ain't...
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He's off his meds and on the internet again.
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Probably more to do with their being German than being Nazi. Germans were big on the martial tradition, and tend to be highly focused on quality design and equipment, similar to the Swiss on the latter point.
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I seem to recall that some of our U.S. military organizational structure was heavily influenced by the German model, and that the 1939 German attack and quick victory in Europe became a model for our combined arms assaults.
Appeal of the Nazi? Not at all. Respect for the organization,and fighting abilities of the WWII German military? Absolutely.
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Probably more to do with their being German than being Nazi. Germans were big on the martial tradition, and tend to be highly focused on quality design and equipment, similar to the Swiss on the latter point. Breeding dogs, brewing beer, building machinery, engineering damn near anything, ... what ever. Once you can mobilize those traditions and package it with pride for homeland (even for nefarious reasons), watch out. Really tough to nearly conquer a large corner of the world from a country about the size of Wisconsin with out superior effort and brains.
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Maybe you should look at Werner Von Braun. After WW 2 the US and Russia fought over German scientist. We got the best. Led our race to the moon and missile systems. Hasbeen
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Lets not give the NAZIS too much credit. They were themselves often surprised at how well their tactics and weapons worked. The 88 was designed as an anti-aircraft weapon. As the French-British used relatively few air craft against them in the invasion of France, the Germans turned it against tanks and were surpised at how well it worked. Turned out to be the best artillery weapon of the war.
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The Nazis are not one and the same as the German/Prussian officer caste. Many of these generals were in the German military prior to World War One and stayed in through the Weimar era into the Nazi era. Some were fascist Nazis ideologically, but not all. The Germans were superior tacticians, but their strategy, thanks to Adolf, stunk. You should read the Stalingrad trilogy. The first two books are out and it's just incredible how the Krauts could be so brilliant and so stupid at the same time. And thank God they were stupid.
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I read in another place where someone said the best ten generals of WW2 were 'german'.
Yes, there is some truth to that with the top two Generals of the war carrying German sirnames. Eisenhower Patton And yes, the Germans did know how to build a gun.
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