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Originally Posted by husqvarna
Gen. McNair was responsible for the crazy doctrine that tanks don't fight tanks. This doctrine was one of the reasons the M-26 didn't get sent to Europe in time to save the lives it could have.
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Originally Posted by JBGQUICK
The Sherman was as good as any of the German tanks except the Tigers.


The Sherman was inferior to every German tank except the Mk 4s with low velocity 75s.



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A slap in the collective face of mere idiots the world round, that was...


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I'm a WWII history nut & have read much about the technological achievements of the Germans before & during their attempt to conquer the world. One can only imagine what they could have achieved IF & obviously that's a big IF if the Nazi's had used peaceful means to better the world. With their advanced rocket & atomic research they would have been in space first & have developed the first atom bomb & eventually the first nuclear power generation system. We all know about their development with rifles (Mauser), high speed machine guns, & superior tanks. Its kind of ironic that a German/Austrian Jew helped the US develop an atom bomb. Thank God for the greatest generation of Americans, British, Canadians, Australians, & New Zealanders that helped stop world domination by the Germans, Italians, & Japanese.


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The thing that gets me about the Germans in WWII was their sheer dedication and altruism in service to their cause.

It weren't cool uniforms or villanous accents that made 'em excellent, it was a general expectation of excellence on their part, that every man would give his all. The hardships they routinely withstood in the face of overwhelming numbers and ordinance were remarkable, to the very limits of human endurance and performance.

The mind-boggling irony being that all of that was in service to an almost-comically bad cabal of leaders and such an evil doctine.

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It may have been Admiral Stark, but I am not sure. The USA was actually in an undeclared war in the Atlantic against the German subs before Dec. 7, 1941.

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I agree with everything you have said. Instead of fluid, flanking maneuver warfare, they attacked straight ahead into the strongest defenses of the war.

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Yes, the tank destroyer battalions were disbanded after the war.

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I think that the M4E8 Sherman with the 76.2mm HV gun was equal to the PkW IV with the 75mm HV gun.

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The Gremans laughed at the Shermans we supplied the Brits...called them "Tommy Cookers". eek


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Originally Posted by ar15a292f
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I think that the M4E8 Sherman with the 76.2mm HV gun was equal to the PkW IV with the 75mm HV gun.


Concur, except for the gasoline engine..


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Originally Posted by anachronism
All Germans were not Nazis. All Nazis were not Germans. The Nazis were Socialists, like we will be in the next few years. The Communists were also Socialists, like we will be in the next few years. The German people have a remarkable history of culture & achievements, spanning over centuries, as do many other nationalities. The "father" of the Nazi Party (Hitler), was actually Austrian born. The rise of the Nazi Party was the fault of the Allied Powers from the first World War. If they had allowed the German people to retain at least some dignity after the first war, Nazi extremism would not have had an opportunity to fester into the horror of a second world war.


There was nothing remotely "socialist" about the Nazi's. Choosing that name for their party was part of the "big-lie" philosophy.

They were as anti-union as any one. They were - and are - "far right" in every respect. Not many real socialists are anti-union and pro-militarism.


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All the German tanks had gasoline engines. The Russians were the ones with diesel engines.

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Originally Posted by ar15a292f
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"... The USA was actually in an undeclared war in the Atlantic against the German subs before Dec. 7, 1941.


Correct. When I lived in Los Angeles, I became friends with an older man who wore the nickname, "Seadog." He spent many years in the Merchant Marine and had two different ships shot out from under him in the North Atlantic by German submarines, previous to Dec. 7, 1941.

(You should have seen his gun collection, too!!)

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Originally Posted by BCBrian


There was nothing remotely "socialist" about the Nazi's. Choosing that name for their party was part of the "big-lie" philosophy.

They were as anti-union as any one. They were - and are - "far right" in every respect. Not many real socialists are anti-union and pro-militarism.


The USSR and it's Warsaw pact nations were anti-Union. Remember Lech Walesa?

Gawd, the stupidity that comes off of your keyboard.

Hitler and Musslini sold socialism just like Lenin, Stalin, Mao etc., sold socialism, as a tool to achieve power by utilizing the working class as their willing pawns.


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And yet another ass-handing to the man from the un-official 51st state...


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Funny how most political science texts disagree with your premise.

Fascism is considered to be far right - at least in most of the texts.

How many socialist countries today favour military intervention in foreign states, or consider union members to be their enemy?

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Un-oficial 51st state?

You are a bigger dreamer than even I could imagine!

Dream on my jealous friend - not in my lifetime. grin


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Originally Posted by BCBrian
Funny how most political science texts disagree with your premise.

Fascism is considered to be far right - at least in most of the texts.


How many socialist countries today favour military intervention in foreign states, or consider union members to be their enemy?

Waiting...



Written by Socialists who will do anything to attempt to intellectually distance themselves from all those who have used Socialism to enslave and kill.


Tell you what, why don't you go to China, North Korea and Cuba and start some labor unions.


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How many socialist countries today favour military intervention in foreign states, or consider union members to be their enemy?


Soviet Union - Hungary 56, Czechoslovakia 68, Afghanistan 79 - that's not counting Poland in 39.

I'd say that qualifies as a "socialist country intervening in a foreign state".


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