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Other than special order savage rifles;how would you put the following list of hard to find rifles in order of rarity? not scientific I know; but want to know if my thoughts are close to others.1 monarch engraved savages
2model 99k in 22 h.p.
3 1895 src
4 model 99T in 22hp
5 1895 engraved rifles
6. model 99 eg in 243
7 rival engraved savages
8victor engraved savages
9 99 g in 22hp
10 other engraved savages
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I'm not qualified to list them in precise order of rarity. But I am qualified to say they are all rare and desirable 
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I've seen more Monarchs than 93's.
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Just one prototype made right?
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IIRC there was two...of which I saw one. I shoulda bought it.
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I may have seen them both if one resides at Savage.
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According to Murry's book one does reside there.
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I've seen um both then. Roe had one from there also. These were the ones made by Colt.
Leroy bought the Monarch I saw in Vegas.
I guess that thing I owned (70152), could be called a Monarch as well.
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Yep; "eye candy"
I know of only one person that has 9 of the 10 I listed.But Leroy probably had them all at one time.[I believe he sold most of his to one man], not sure.
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I'd say that 99R in 243 is rarer than EG... and 22HP EGs are going to be right up there also...specifically cut checkered 284 Fs are going to be super rare as a subset of the standard 284F.
I would be so bold as to say that the 1893 was never a cataloged production gun.
Are there really fewer 1895 SRCs than engraved 1895s???? Seems like those that keep logs have 6 or so SRCs...anyone seen 6+ engraved 1895s?
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Yep; correct on all counts. I have seen a feww engraved 95's ; no I'm wrong ,just 2. But have seen a few advertized over the last 20 years in auction houses; but I believe I've only seen 2 95-src and about 6 or 7 others mentionrd on here. So; don't really know; just basing my guess on my own past history.
They are probably close.
More input might help us, thanks
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How about the 30-30 R?
Should be on the list.
Believe there were 10 or so made.
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wow! didn't know that. Pre-war or both?
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"You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass"
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I've seen um both then. Roe had one from there also. These were the ones made by Colt.
Leroy bought the Monarch I saw in Vegas.
I guess that thing I owned (70152), could be called a Monarch as well. This is what I believe you are talking about. ![[Linked Image]](http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j312/99trix/Roes1893.jpg)
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Think they were special order for some retailer or company.
Maybe somebody can help me out here. Think Drew knows the story.
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Thanks Blair; that's what Jed is talkin about.
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I know where a 99F in 284 that is hand checkered but some bubba sanded it down bad. The LBC says 1963. Seen one on GA about 3-4 years ago that sold pretty quick.
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