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Tag... this is good for 20 pages....
Gotta love the long sexy .270. If it just had lips like Jennifer Lopez
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Tag... this is good for 20 pages....
Gotta love the long sexy .270. If it just had lips like Jennifer Lopez ...and wasn't hanging on George Michael. 
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I'm not sayin' what I hunt with, but anybody not doing it my way is doing it wrong. So there.
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Ho-Hum, another day afield with the boring .270. Barnes VORTX 130gr TTSX ![[Linked Image]](http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x400/cruiser111/P1020743.jpg)
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I think we have to remember that the vast majority of big game hunters don't read or participate in this forum. We are probably less than 1% of those hunters. Those that post on here with any regularity are mostly interested in what is new, different, better, cooler, faster, more accurate, etc.. Because of that, old and boringly efficient cartridges get overlooked and side stepped.
These hunters are still working on a 20 pack of .270 shells they bought back in 2007.
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Throwing this out for thought and discussion.
As a long time rifle looney and reloader, I've owned several .270's, but found them boring, although efficient. I traded them all, except for an old custom Springfield with McGowen barrel I put together as a teenager.
Now to the point. From the recent discussions on the .243 and 7mm Rem Mag having pressure swings causing the SAAMI max pressure limits on those two to be down from 65K, the .270 cranks along at 65K without issue. And of all the P. O. Ackley improved rounds, where is the .270AI? You see a lot of .280AI's, a great round. Reportedly, the .270 was the least improved round P. O. worked with, thus no reason for the AI version.
So, being nearly perfect regarding the absence of high end pressure aberrations and being good enough to not benefit that much from P. O.'s best efforts, does that make the old .270 a near perfect round ballistically, just as Winchester rolled it out, so many years ago? For a long time I have been a magnum fanatic. And yet I call the .270 the non-magnum magnum. When my brother decided to get into hunting at the age of 65 I recomended a .270.
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Here's a thought process that will mess with your mind- My little 270 Titus, and the 270 Winchester, 270 WSM, 270 Weatherby are all the same cartridge- at different ranges. If I shoot 2800 FPS with a Titus and you shoot 3300 with a magnum, we still shoot the same 130 grain Hornady GMX bullet. But I have to stalk closer to my animal than you do. I shoot mine at 100 yards and you shoot yours at 400 yards because.... you suck as a hunter and can't get close. Sorry, I'm having fun with this!
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Ho-Hum, another day afield with the boring .270. Looks like you're having way too much fun, shooting such a boring round...!  DF
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I have a 700 Ti 270 Win. Tonight it will become a 30-06. That's what I think of the 270.  True story folks. Black Timber Elk Rifle extraordinaire 200 grain Partitions here I come. Edited to add... Oh yeah, and since I have a 260 Ackley I no longer need the 270 Win.
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SU35, Don't tell us you got so tired of the boring .270 that you, in a weak moment, went to the dark side, moving to the glamerous 30-06...  Gotta be a story there... DF
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Edited to add...
Oh yeah, and since I have a 260 Ackley 30-06 and dotz, I no longer need the 270 Win 260 Ackley.
There . . . fixed it for you
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Am I going to have to quit using .243s and 7mm Rems? John....I wouldn't if I was you.... To all...a sorta funny story I'm sure John won't mind me sharing.He was good enough to join me for dinner in Casper and over drinks we naturally talked about hunting and rifles. I commented off-handedly (knowing he used the 7 Mag alot)that guys like Les Bowman and Warren Page sorta had it nailed in the use of 7 mags as a good choice for LR elk hunting... He immediately responded....(and I am paraphrasing here)..."So did O'Connor....anyone who thinks the 270 isn't a great open country elk cartridge is wrong..." I was a bit taken by surprise and did not know how to respond....... John is a good deal younger than me, and I expected, with his real LR experience, he would consider the 270 a bit anemic for the job. But I guess not! My best .270 story was when I was helping my dad cut an elk into mule load size pieces. He had killed this bull with 1 shot to the shoulder with a .270 and 130 Partitions. It had died quite abruptly. I was in a .338 Win Mag phase and was sure Elmer knew it all. While we removing the shoulder he made a comment about just how dead do they need to be to load them on a mule? I am a little hard headed but even I got the message.
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I'm 55 years of ages and never hunted with a 270 until I was about 45 years old. The last 10 years it's about all I have every used.IMO the 270 will do about everything well. Maybe not perfect.It took the place of my .243 that I had for light recoil.It replaced the 25/06 for the long distance shot and a 150gr .270 is a 30/06 150gr equal.With a barnes bullet it the equal of the 7mm Mag when you need a little more.
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John, good story! Lesson there!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
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probably because I have a couple .260's that will do anything my .270's can do and do it with 15 grains less powder, less muzzle blast, recoil and in a shorter, stiffer action. Yep.
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I have a 700 Ti 270 Win. Tonight it will become a 30-06. That's what I think of the 270. True story folks. Black Timber Elk Rifle extraordinaire 200 grain Partitions here I come. Edited to add... Oh yeah, and since I have a 260 Ackley I no longer need the 270 Win. Well, sure...let's face it... today the deal is the cartridge has a lot more competition than when it came into being,when it was sorta unique among available factory offerings. What I find sort of interesting,is that its' champion and advocate,JOC,has been gone since 1976,and with his passing rumors of its' ultimate demise without him around started to circulate....with the exception of some real rifle loonies, this has not happened;and the ammo supplies during hunting season still dry up fastest on the 30/06 and 270 shelves. What I notice among some younger hunters, guys 20-30 years younger, is a tendency to regard it as "underpowered";somehow inadequate,and they reach past it for something more powerful.I have a couple of close younger friends who each purchased 270's after several years with totally tricked out 300 RUM's....they have just started to hunt with the cartridge,and I notice they show up at the range more frequently with the 270's than anything else now. One is on a complete tear,having fallen in love with my old Brown Pound'r stocked pre 64 with #1 Krieger tha weighs 6.9# scoped.....so he built a modern day equivilent of the rifle that just arrived.It turned out very nice!
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I have owned a 30-06 for over 40 years, but would have no qualms using a 270 for elk in the dark timber. A 130/140 TSX or TTSX would give penetration in spades
I In the 30-06 would use a 165/168 or 180 TSX or TTSX in the 06 for the dark timber and never ever look back. The 150 TSX or TTSX would work equally well IMHO
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Consider how effective the 7x57 is and that the .270 is a 7x57 improved. What was the question?
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The 270 WCF is my fav. for deer sized game, its not loud, it doesnt kick, the rifles are very light and easy to handle, but handloaded with a 150 gn NP's at 2950 its a killin' SOB, and does way better than paper ballistics would lead some to believe. I cant ever see myself without at least one or four Gunner x2... preach on brutha! 270 is good stuff Gunner
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Su - good hunting! Your 06/200PT will do nigh what a 338 OKH will do penetration wise....about as well as a 270/160PT Or a 260/120 TTSX - Lol.
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