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The US destroyer USS Reuben James (DD-245) was sunk by a German sub in October 1941, prior to the US entering the hostilities. While we did not enter the war until December 7, 1941, we did escort convoys to the UK to ensure the cargo we sold the Brits arrived. The Ruben James was part of that effort.

Thanks for the kind words ar. I do know a little about ASW :), but I developed the platform more into the War At Sea Role when the S-3B came out with the ISAR radar and Harpoon missile. When the Soviets, (you know the Union of Soviet SOOCIALIST Republics) developed a "Blue Water" Navy, the S-3 became a great platform to strike their Surface Action Groups (SAGs) with long range strikes centered around us and with A-6s.
As to the moron from across the border, one can only shake one's head in disgust and come to the realization that it is that kind of dangerous incompetence, depicted by academia is a central reason we find ourselves in the mess we are in. jorge

I may be wrong, but I believe our own M60 machingun was based
on the German MG42 machinegun.

No your not wrong. They took the worst features of several German and Allied MGs to make the m-60.

They were popular for the same reasons as their fellow travelers the Communists and Progressives. Manipulating, lying, preying on human weaknesses is standard fair for these groups.

Just look what Obama and his band progressive fascists do. The Nazis were not that much different. Right now he is using the same strategy as Hitler and the Communists used to gain political power. Hitler had the Jews and Obama has the 1%. Obama created the Occupy movement to focus the peoples anger away from him and on the 1%. He is counting on human weakness, envy and greed, to gain political power. He hopes that these people will come to hime to deal with the evil 1% and they will vote him in for a second term.

I've never heard of the M-4 Sherman tank being equipped with a diesel engine. I know they were powered by Continental and Chrysler gasoline engines, but IO never heard of a diesel. Whose diesel?

I'm no expert but here's the info off the wiki page.

Yes, the M-60 was based on both the MG-42 and the FG-42 machine guns. The cartridge feed mechanism was from the MG-42 and bolt system was form the FG-42. When the Army asked General Motors (Inland guide Division) to design a copy of the MG-42 in 30-06 for test purposes, the neglected to accommodate the longer 30-06 case dimensions in their design; hence a lot of jams (W. H. B. Smith reference).

One interesting feature of the late war German designs is that they utilized a number of stampings (replacing expensive machined parts) and this innovation is with us today.

thanks Nathan. I learned somethig new.

Several countries did that. I think the Swiss MG51 is the top of that heap,

Nathanl & djs,
I didn't get it from wiki, but the book I have at home says the same thing that you have quoted from wiki. I think that the US Army only wanted gasoline engine tanks to simplfy fuel supply. All of their jeeps, trucks, tanks and self propelled guns could use the same fuel. They could also use aviation gas in a pinch. The US Marine Corps was supplied by the US Navy which had plenty of diesel fuel, so it wasn't much of a problem for them. The Soviet Union got the majority of the diesel Shermans because thier entire tank fleet (T34s)was diesel powered.

The M60's feed mechanism is based on the MG-42 but the bolt/operating rod is actually based on the Lewis Gun. Take a look at a schematic sometime. As for the M60 being a poor MG that is a crock. I have also been shot at by an MG-42 and it ain't a pleasant thing. Good thing the Gooks were so small physically because the recoil of 7,9 at about 1500rpm threw them all over the place. As to the vulnerability of a Sherman, ammo and fuel yes but an overlooked factor was the fluid in the recoil/recovery mechanism of the main gun. HIGHLY inflammable and a rupture in the system (by a turret penetration) would light up the turret every time.

Just look at how successful the Democrats are in politics if you want to understand how the Nazis appealed to the Germans. Obama's use of the 1% and the Occupy movement mirrors Hitlers use of the Jews. They both preyed on human failings, anger, envy, greed and predjudices for political power.

The German military was the best in the world during WWII without a doubt.

They destroyed many superior armies with an operational strategy, Blitzkrieg, that the enemy was unable to deal with. The Poland was easily conquered. The vastly superior French and English armies were defeated in just a few weeks with few casualties. Germany easily conquered Yugoslavia, Albania and Greece. Huge armies in Russia were surrounded and defeated with only the vast size, weather, lack of roads of Russia preventing victory there. And the interference by Hitler helped the Russians also.

When the Germans lacked the resources to take the offensive the superiority of the German military organization and officers became readily apparent. They were more flexiable and resilient that their opponents and used superior tactics.

They followed for many of the same reasons Obama has a good following stupidity!

Amazing thread with soo much knowledgeable folks here on the 'Fire.

Thanks for the read !

I hear their popularity is on the rise in parts of northern Europe...