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I can tell you the prairie dogs will be hurting here this summer. If you can find some...we are still recovering from the plague around here... Gotta go west for them.....
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The only ammo that availiable to civilians are the non expanding 27 gr. mono HP's and the 40 gr. Hornady V-Max loads. I wouldn't be too nervous about using either for defensive purposes. I've run both against a .357 load that pushes a 158 gr. SWC at 940 fps. which is a minimal, but effective load. Against a 2.5 galon rectangular water jug, the .357 load will rupture the back half and just barely penetrate out the back of the jug. The bullet can be picked up on the ground behind the jug. Both of the 5.7 loads blow out the front half of the jug and dimple the back of the jug. That's 12 inches of penetration. The V-Max load fragments, but still raises a dimple at the back of the jug. And the front of the jug breaks up more than it does with the .357 load. I just got my dies as well as some 40 and 45 gr. Sierra .22 Hornet soft points. Since these are designed for Hornet velocities, I want to see if they hold together and penetrate better. My load data also says I can get up to 200 fps. more than the factory V-Max load with the 40 gr. Hornet bullet, BTW. E
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I'd shy away from the V-Max for social purposes myself, as it does fragment violently and doesn't penetrate gelatin or flesh very well at all. They're great on varmints, of course. I use V-Max 40's in my .223 "crow load" (not that I would shoot a protected migratory bird like the crow, of course!) and it positively vaporizes ground squirrels and such. I think your 40 and 45 gr Sierras would be very effective as well. Looking forward to hearing how they work for you.
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OK did some water testing for fun. 45 gr Sierra soft point (not the hornet bullet) Load was 10 gr of LILGUN for a velocity of 1900 fps or so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnZnqPJ_qKwThe bullet went through 5 water jugs, the 1/2" wooden backstop and bounced of my shed! Never recovered the bullet but the impression of the bullet on the shed wood looked perfectly oblong and showed no expansion. I will be testing the 40 gr Nosler BT and the 50 gr Nosler BT next. This thing is a penetrator from hell!
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Very cool! Glad to see that a good guy has a really awsome spacegun! Looking forward to further reports.
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About 2016 team "R" candidates "We definitely need a crew with a sack of balls the size of hot water bottles, bloviated estrogen leaking feel-gooders need not apply." Gunner 500
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BTW, my PMR30 wants to be an FN5.7 when it grows up... For now, it is this poor boys version. Based upon how loud my PMR30 is, I am guessing that the FN5.7 is a decibel beast as well. Have you noticed such?
LOVE God, LOVE your family, LOVE your country, LIKE guns and sports.
About 2016 team "R" candidates "We definitely need a crew with a sack of balls the size of hot water bottles, bloviated estrogen leaking feel-gooders need not apply." Gunner 500
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Very cool! Glad to see that a good guy has a really awsome spacegun! Looking forward to further reports. As soon as the water jugs thaw out!!!!
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relax, dfe, I'm not poopin' on anybody's caliber parade.... You're pontificating and condescending. Every post you make RE: the 5.7 tells us much more about you than it ever could about the cartridge. Someone so ignorant posturing as an expert would be hilarious ...if it weren't so pathetic.
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