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Wow... The guy advocating the use of a common, standard cartridge due in large part to it's availability everywhere doesn't even pack the right size lug wrench to change the tires on something he, assumedly, uses way more often than a rifle. It's not a wonder he's worried about not having is ammo with him...  Geez...Can't anyone read the question at hand?..JWall asked WHY AREN'T THE 6.5s MORE POPULAR ?? and I gave my reasons it probably isn't... My good friend in Rigging Idaho owns a 264 Win Mag and I have been there with him when he killed several Elk..Does it work..Hell yeah.. but does it work better than a 270 Winchester..Hell No... That is another reason the 264 Win Mag never hit stardom besides being known as a "barrel Burner"..The 270 Win does anything the 6.5 can plus some for the average hunter. Jayco
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6.5 guys aren't 'average'. Kinda like the chrome wheel crowd....
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I'd be embarrased if I had to buy chrome wheels, just to pick up chicks and feel younger..... Yeah, but you gotta admit, by the looks of that photo, no way you're gettin' way back in there on that road without custom wheels......
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6.5 guys aren't 'average'. Kinda like the chrome wheel crowd.... I wonder why chrome wheels aren't more popular? Probably because there ain't nothing a chrome wheel can do that a .270, er., I mean, a steel wheel can't do.....
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I'd be embarrased if I had to buy chrome wheels, just to pick up chicks and feel younger..... That's pretty intelligent and on topic. Jayco
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I wonder why chrome wheels aren't more popular?
I wonder why a guy that doesn't even hunt with a centerfire rifle even gets involved in a centerfire thread. I'm not going to play high school games with you guys..If you have something to show and tell about 6.5's and Elk hunting..Chime in with your personal experiences with them on Elk and why you think there not as popular as others as JWall asked,not this childish bubble gum talk from grown men. Jayco
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![[Linked Image]](http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp311/patrickgsinclair/6X6011.jpg) Here you go...260 with handloads put together to perform as good or better than a .270.
Luck....is the residue of design... ![[Linked Image]](http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp311/patrickgsinclair/96zvyt.gif)
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How does it perform better?
Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a hunting license and that's pretty close.
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And that answers the posters question about why the 6.5's are not more popular?
Go to Federal ammunition and find the 264 Win Mag,owe wait,it isn't listed,only the 260 Rem...One "Big" reason the 6.5's are not popular.
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How does it perform better? 130gr Berger VLD @ 3000 fps, .552 G1 BC.
Luck....is the residue of design...
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Learn from an expert.....
Make a list....check it "thrice"!
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130gr Berger VLD @ 3000 fps 270 Winchester Federal High Energy 140 grain Trophy Bonded 3100 fps. Look on Hornady's sight...Absolutely "NO" 6.5's available. Jayco
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How does it perform better? 130gr Berger VLD @ 3000 fps, .552 G1 BC. Still don't see how it's better compared to a max hand loaded .270?
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Since I started reloading, the only factory ammo I purchase is rimfire...so 'ammo availability' is a dead issue for me...make it and bring it from home...
and while I hunt with the 260 and 6.5 x 55, my favorite 6.5 bore is a 6.5 x 57.... just neck up plentifully available 257 Roberts brass ( or 6mm Rem)....
but if you were relying on store bought ammo, try finding a box or two of that on the shelves at any small town store...
and as far as 'availability' in rifles that people want?
guess no one ever heard of a rebarrel...
heck I wanted a featherweight Model 70 in 6.5 x 55 for antelope hunting.. with a 24 or 26 inch barrel on it..
not going to find that on the shelf... but I picked up a used Featherweight cheap as it had a shot out 30/06 barrel on it ( the factory original)...$275.00 later, it had a 6.5 x 55 barrel on it, 26 inches in length...I had $550 in the rifle...
my life doesn't have to spin around what the marketing depts of gun companies decide to test the waters with this year..
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
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.270 140gr Nosler AccuBond @ 3000 fps
500 meters, 2099fps, 1370 FP energy
.260 130 VLD @ 3000fps
500 meters, 2197fps, 1393 FP energy
Not real bad for a case burning only 45grs of powder out of a short action.
Now compare a .270 to a .264 Win Mag shooting 140gr VLD's at 3250fps.
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Senar - a couple of ? ?
Can you get 3000fps from a 260 rem w/o 26-30" bll? SAFLEY
I haven't found that vel w/130 gr from a 6.5x55 more like 2800-2900
Do you believe the B C that Berger advertises?
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Once again your dodging the question on why the 6.5's are not so popular?There are offerings out there for the 264 just not from some major ammunition dealers.I have yet to see Nosler ammunition on the shelves around here.It's an order only proposition and not every hunter has the internet...Can't be can it?A hunter without the internet can't be successful or know chit can he...  Let's see.... Federal Cartridges 264 Winchester Mag ammuntion.... NONE offered.Federal Cartridges 270 Winchester ammunition..Several offerings Hornady offerings for 264 Winchester Mag... NONE OfferedHornady offerings for 270 Winchester...Several offerings. Jayco
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I wonder why a guy that doesn't even hunt with a centerfire rifle even gets involved in a centerfire thread. Who said I don't hunt with centerfire rifles?? I'd be embarrased if I had to buy chrome wheels, just to pick up chicks and feel younger..... That's pretty intelligent and on topic. Jayco Seriously??? Who was it that brought up chrome wheels in the first place? Was it Huntsman22, or someone else??
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![[Linked Image]](http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp311/patrickgsinclair/LWGAP260001.jpg) I get 3000fps with 130 VLD's with this .260 easily and could probably get a little more. It sports a 24" 1-9" Rock 5R barrel. I've verified the BC of that bullet with actual field testing out to 1000 meters. Berger adjusted the BC's of their bullets not long ago and my testing with diameters from .243 through .338 show them to be very close if not a little low...
Luck....is the residue of design...
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