Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire The excommunication of Ron Paul

Do you have a little Sachet that you wear, close to your heart,....."Genuine sweat offa' Rp's balls",....or what?

He's a "Doctor" ya' know,....he may have just mixed up street grade LSD with DMSO , and sold it to ya'.

I "Disavow" saying any of the forgoing,....so it really doesn't need any response,....does it STUPID ?

GTC

The people of iran.

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at the risk of injecting some more painful reality into the Paulists fantasy world.....you do realize, don't you, that Gingrich and Bachman and Santorum's voting record in the Congress is probably identical to 99% of Ron Paul's votes for the times they overlapped. Other than Ron's votes against fighting terrorism and his occasional solo attention whore stunts. that's why all their ACU scores are within spitting distance of each other.

so these idiots who keep saying Paul is a conservative and everybody else is a liberal are just bleating Paulie delusions, not reality.

Well, if one listed the RPeeer's on this site you would have a complete list of KOTY contestants......

Mary Martha.

This is the syntax remaining after an "edit" ?

that's a new tact, take a history of votes and claim that because they agree on 90% of them there isn't much difference between him and the other candidates

however there are a couple of problems with that take

1. that argument makes it hard to claim he is a kook or leftist and
2.that 10% difference like supporting bailouts, wars, the patriot act, etc is the real crux of the issues that one has to determine what being a conservative is really about.

he's not a leftist, but his best friends like Kucinic and McKinney certainly are. and they join in his kookier votes which most conservatives don't.

it is a a trait of cults to claim secret superior knowledge....how else to explain the fact that everybody else disagrees.

No, ....a valid question, given your fanatical ranting, Mister.

and most folks here know EXACTLY what I just said,....

"Mary Martha",....? did you start saying that kinda' chit after putting on your little sachet ?

Careful there, might not be a bad time to take it off,....lay it over on your RP altar for a week or so. I'm sure if you keep a candle burning, he'll forgive you. That, and send more money.

GTC

most conservatives voted to extend the patriot act and supported the NDAA

The term conservative ain't what it used to be.

Something for the non American hating Paulies to think over.

see the 26,387 prior posts on the PA....too late to reiterate all those arguments, except to say....again....there's not a soul on this forum that can point to a single thing the PA has changed in his life.

except to give some an excuse to burn perfectly good electrons.

which is exactly why its been passed, and repassed, with huge majorities.

oh I'd say its affected peoples lives in ways they don't immediately notice, like lowering the standards for surveillance and opening up the full brunt of modern technology to profile and eavesdrop on them.

We've seen a number of justifications to increased intelligence gathering from service providers as well as the dumping of money into crawler programs, email receptors and trigger programs. Not to mention a level of cooperation unheard of in terms of companies like cell phone and internet providers storing and turning over records they never intended to or were required to provide in the past.

Matter of fact, I would be surprised if this forum hasn't had some level of review due to the number of anti-government comments and common core of firearm owners who own multiple weapons and are well versed on their use. You think every IP address that hits this site is from the western hemisphere?

That isn't paranoia on my part, that's just a reality of daily life post patriot act. Whether the actions are specific to the wording in the act or the act itself sets a tone for government infringement really makes no difference. The new way of thinking touches all of us.

I'd also argue that the support the Patriot act has received has made it "gateway" legislation to allow more dangerous infringements such as the NDAA we are hearing about now.

So changing your daily life is subjective. I know I for one live in much narrower lines of behavior. There are many things I wouldn't do now that I didn't think twice about prior to 9/11 , and its not because I'm concerned about terrorists, its because I'm concerned about my name appearing on a government checklist, heck, I'm not even sure I want them to know I have more than a 7 day supply of food.

Its all connected.

but since all this has been discussed before and the resolution of the board was that nothing has changed because of the Patriot Act, I'm sure I'm just a conspiracy theorist.

You can probably say the same about the average subject of Red China regarding the despotic form of government they live under. Few of them, as a percentage of the population, probably ever become actual victims of the regime. Does that fact recommend to us a Red China style of government for the US? Chances are you'd never find yourself on the wrong side of the despots, after all. That seems to be your standard.

There's something very perverse about a post extolling the virtues of the Patriot Act beside an avatar of John Wayne standing in front of an American flag.

I didn't say anything about the other candidates. I didn't even say I didn't like Ron Paul. I think he has alot of great ideas. He's probably a great man and would make a very good president.

My point was and is....RON PAUL WILL NEVER WIN A GENERAL ELECTION FOR PRESIDENT. N-E-V-E-R. Quit kidding yourselves and move along. FUGGEDABOUTIT already.