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I hear you though it has rode on the front handles of an ATV in Alaska a time or three so what the hell, they are all meant to be used.
I promise you my truck cost more.
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You might want to look at the EAA combo gun 12ga/223 with choke tubes, weaver base at listed & lbs and barrels are adjustable for POI. Bud's has them for $479 right now. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...nut+12+Ga223+Rem.+Combo+wPicatinny+Rail/If i didn't have a Bernardeli in 12ga/5.6x50R I'd grab one right now. This is a great coyote rig.
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After the first shot the rest are just noise.
Make mine a Minaska
Heaven has walls and rules, H-ll has open borders
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I have a Savage 24 that is a .357mag/20 gauge. It is a bit club-like, but it is still an OK camp gun. CP.
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I forgot about those. I have one in 12/7X57R that is exceedingly accurate. It takes the same mounts as air rifles and has two triggers, so it is fast to select which barrel you wish. Although crude looking, the metal-to-metal fit is very good, and it works...every time. I got it on Gunbroker a few years ago for $245.00 + shipping & Brady. In my opinion, they are worth the $479.00 price if you need a handy "truck gun". That Bernardelli combo is one I covet.
Hunt with Class and Classics
Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray
Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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Campfire Kahuna
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I've owned several Savage 24's. My first was a 20/.22 Magnum from the 1960's, with barrels that were actually soldered together, and decent wood. Unfortunately the shotgun barrel shot VERY high.
Many of the later 24's could be somewhat adjusted to get the rifle and shotgun barrels to shoot close to the same place, but I also found they could come out of adjustment.
I always resnted only having one shot gun round as well, so eventually gave up and started spending more money on drillings. Have had up to 3 at a time, but am down to 2 now, one a slightly earlier Daly/Sauer 12x12/.30-30 like Steelheads, but with outside hammers, and the other a Sauer 16x16/6.5x57R with a claw-mounted scope, along with a Krieghoff insert for the right barrel that shoots .22 Long Rifles to point of aim at 50 yards.
Both cost somewhat more than a Savage, but not as much as many people would expect. They work a LOT better than a Savage.
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I owned several Savage 24's and was frustrated with their poor quality and shoddy engineering. They just didn't work well. Now, like Mule Deer, I carry a couple of different drillings, which are a lot more money - but you do get what you pay for! The closest thing I have to what the OP is asking for is this Heym 16 ga over .222. It is a very nice rig and with its aluminum alloy receiver, weighs under 5 lbs with the claw mounted scope removed.
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That is way cool! And just about ideal.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
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That is way cool! And just about ideal. ^^...what he said...and it weighs 1/2 what the Valmet with scope and mount does.
Hunt with Class and Classics
Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray
Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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I just got a md24 20/22 camper special, with the case for 375.00, but havent got to try it yet!
Deer Camp! about as good as it gets!
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Hunt with Class and Classics
Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray
Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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That is a VERY overpriced Heym on Gun Broker! Mine cost less that half that, and is a better model without the sliding barrel selector on the left side, and came with claw mounts ( $700-1000 new) not a clumsy side mount. If you look close you can also see it has a crack at the tang. Pretty optimistic seller IMHO! Here is a close up of mine for comparison...
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The first Tikka I ever owned was a Ithaca Tikka LSA-55 combination gun, 25� 12 gauge full choke shotgun barrel over 24-1/2� 222 cal rifle barrel(with brake). I won it at a Friends of NRA banquet. I had never seen one before that night, and was impressed with the quality and looks, over the Savage combo guns. I was even more impressed with the accuracy of the .222. It's one of the guns I keep close to the front of the safe for quick access when I see a coyote walking along my back fence row.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost....
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I always thought Savage missed a big marketing niche by not producing it in stainless with a 45/70 barrel over a 12 guage. They could've called it the "Alaskan Survival" model, suitable for bush pilots and such. It would have been the darling of survivalists everywhere.
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The closest thing I have to what the OP is asking for is this Heym 16 ga over .222. It is a very nice rig and with its aluminum alloy receiver, weighs under 5 lbs with the claw mounted scope removed. Yeah, that would work. Thanks!
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... Ithaca Tikka LSA-55 combination gun... 'Nother nominee, and one I'd never heard of.
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Pics of my Bernadelli 12ga ove 5.6x50R Mag Leupold VX-II 1x4x20mm
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
Make mine a Minaska
Heaven has walls and rules, H-ll has open borders
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My Savage is the 30-30/20 Gauge combo and I like it, even though it is entirely unregulated. Shotgun slugs hit over a foot and a half lower and to the left from the rifles point of impact.
Maybe now that I have time I will get around to grinding off about half of the stock wood to get it down to fighting weight.
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WHO IS JOHN GALT? LIBERTY!
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The Valmet/Tikka in any of its multiple incarnations might be the best buy - maybe in one of the more obscure early labels - some were sold as turkey guns. I keep thinking about putting tubes in my own Valmet and then think maybe I'll run across another set of barrels or a complete gun already done.
Such firearms can be snare for the unwary - there are jurisdictions and enforcement people who quite properly regard the firearms as good for taking a variety of game - and sometimes it's not all currently in season locally.
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I cut my teeth on a very early production Model 24 22 LR/410, with the button selector on the side of the frame and the barrels soldered together. It has a Williams peep sight on it. I've killed a pile of small game with it since my old man gave it to me when I was about 5 years old or so. I still hunt with it- the last time I was in the woods I was toting it, and bagged three very tasty quail. I also have one in 22 Magnum/410 (also with the soldered barrels and button selector) with a scope on it. It shoots as good if not slightly better than my Anschutz 22 Magnum. At 75 yards it will put three CCI Maxi-Mags into one slightly oblong hole - and that's with a 2.75x scope. I also have this, and tote it during deer season when I hunt areas that have lots of gray squirrels. It's a 12 guage over 5.6x52R (22 Savage Hi-Power). Brian.
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I have one of the Savage 24V's in 222/20 gauge. Ugly. Yes. Functional. Yes. I use it for calling. The 222 barrel is surprisingly accurate and the 20 gauge with BB shot rolls coyotes pretty effectively. I haven't used it a lot here in Alaska but it got a fair amount of play when I lived in the lower 48.
Mart
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