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The world is full of all-around cartridges, where are the all-around riflemen? Instead of reading that fluff written by Chuck Hawks and the whole "best caliber" mental masturbation gak; the question posed by Brad should encourage some thought.
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They're right here, around the fire...shaking their heads.
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The world is full of all-around cartridges, where are the all-around riflemen? ![[Linked Image]](http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x401/chiefbsa/smiley-laughing025.gif)
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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+1 for the .30-06 If I had to give all of them up but one, I'd probably be stuck with a .300 Savage because it was my first, but .30-06 makes the most sense to me. Whichever though. There isn't anything on this earth that I couldn't kill with either if I really wanted to.
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I love old, boring PROVEN rounds. What does "proven" mean besides proven to be popular? Lots of rounds aren't popular (and never will be) but they all killed what they shot.
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I love old, boring PROVEN rounds. What does "proven" mean besides proven to be popular? Lots of rounds aren't popular (and never will be) but they all killed what they shot. True but 106 years of dead stuff and still the most "popular" chambering in the US = PROVEN.
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The world is full of all-around cartridges, where are the all-around riflemen? Instead of reading that fluff written by Chuck Hawks and the whole "best caliber" mental masturbation gak; the question posed by Brad should encourage some thought. Yes, the problem with these discussions is that they quickly deteriorate into talk about what suits individual "needs".To the guy who hunts deer and antelope every year,rolls the odd coyote or woodchuck now and then,and hunts cow elk once every other decade, a 257 Roberts is an "all around" cartridge...lots different from the fellow fortunate enough to be hunting a wide variety of the world's soft skinned game here and abroad. That used to be the context in which we thought of all round cartridges,situations where the 30/06, the 7mm and 300 mags,the 375H&H, were shining stars among "true" all round BG hunters. Plus the fact that the world today is loaded with cartridges providing similar and duplicitous performance,so that you get a huge headache distinguishing one from the other (eyes glazed over)and only a computer genius with 40 charts and an engineering degree from MIT can tell them apart....near as I can tell, the animals haven't changed much,and can't notice the differences in terms of which headstamp kills them.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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The world is full of all-around cartridges, where are the all-around riflemen? Instead of reading that fluff written by Chuck Hawks and the whole "best caliber" mental masturbation gak; the question posed by Brad should encourage some thought. Yes, the problem with these discussions is that they quickly deteriorate into talk about what suits individual "needs".To the guy who hunts deer and antelope every year,rolls the odd coyote or woodchuck now and then,and hunts cow elk once every other decade, a 257 Roberts is an "all around" cartridge...lots different from the fellow fortunate enough to be hunting a wide variety of the world's soft skinned game here and abroad. That used to be the context in which we thought of all round cartridges,situations where the 30/06, the 7mm and 300 mags,the 375H&H, were shining stars among "true" all round BG hunters. Plus the fact that the world today is loaded with cartridges providing similar and duplicitous performance,so that you get a huge headache distinguishing one from the other (eyes glazed over)and only a computer genius with 40 charts and an engineering degree from MIT can tell them apart....near as I can tell, the animals haven't changed much,and can't notice the differences in terms of which headstamp kills them. Thuse the .30-06 I bet if that was the only round we were all allowed to hunt with, the same number of animals would hit the dirt this year. Same for the .270, 7x57, .308 and whatever else. Even if we had only the .243 We don't give ourselves enough credit. What is a hundred or so yards and a couple more weeks spent pounding dirt. Isn't that what we all get so excited about in the first place?
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.270 Win. for the parameters described in the lower 48. .375H&H for Alaska and Africa
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I think I would stick with the .30-06 SPRG if I was picking one "all-around" cartridge to own for my hunting.
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I wonder how the 30-06 would have been looked at if the .308 would have been created first. People probably would have criticized it for using more powder and a longer action for minmal gain. Timing is everything!
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I wonder how the 30-06 would have been looked at if the .308 would have been created first. People probably would have criticized it for using more powder and a longer action for minmal gain. Timing is everything! Tell that to the .300 Savage...  FC
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Tell that to the .300 Savage... FC Point taken! 
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Good thing we don't have to pick one. We'd probably be a little more leathal if we all did though. I bet my Red Rider killed more stuff than any of the centerfires I've ever owned.
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7-08REM & .308WIN are my all-around cartridges.
I like 7mm bullets. Both 7-08 and 7RM are awesome.
And I like .308 lightweight rifles !
Couldn't agree more on all points, except mine is a WSM instead of RM.
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All around any where and all game, 9.3X62 and a 6.5X55SE or 6.5X57. Should cover most situations. Of course I have and have hunted with both succesfully.
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270 win. 7mm rm. 7 mm saum. 308 win
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