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i have a .376 Steyr, a .375 H&H AI and two .375 Ultras. if i had to narrow it down to one round, it'd be the .375 Ultra, because it will do what the H&H, H&H AI, or .375 WBY will plus some. i reload and i've never had to get ammo at a mom&pop store. ever.

and i have both M70 and m700 rifles in .375. any rifle needs a few hundred rounds run through them before i'd trust 'em and after that, given no hiccups i trust either just fine...

it's funny to hear people rave about 9.5#-10# hunting rifles though...

Add a standard tupperware Ruger synthetic or canoe paddle stock and it is easy to make a 7# 375 Ruger

Well....I might be braggin, but I like the 375 H&H...in a Ruger No. 1. For the following reasons...















Ya'll hunt with whatever you want, but I'll take the H&H hands down.


maddog

Great pix MD.

That top buff in particular is great! Out of curiosity, what's the spread on those horns? Looks huge.

You know how I feel about that rifle...

Funny, I've never had a magazine spring break in a 700, but the spring in my M70 crapped the bed while elk hunting. Good thing I had a 700 along as a second gun. By your reasoning, I should feel that M70s are crap and 700s rule.

The four M70s I bought this year shows I can think a little more broadly than that, though.

Granted...

I shoot my elk out to about 350 yards. I like getting closer if possible. I like hunting as much as shooting anymore.

BTW, I use a fine old FN action Sako in 375 Wby to do this. With 260 Accubonds it hits like Thor's Hammer.

This little last day 5X5 was out at 367 paces...I estimate it was 350 yards + or -. The rifle is sighted in at 300 yards, so the shot was easy.





His BIG mistake was herding his cows into an area too easy to get him out.

My dad never shot an elk farther out than 200 yards, and he got to within 50 yards of most. It was called "hunting". I have his pre-64 Mdl 70 375 H&H, and it still works.

Dufur: No doubt the RUM is a flat shooting outfit,but the 375H&H is no slouch.Mine will do 2875 to 2940 with a 250 Sierra spitzer boattail or Bitterroot,depending on how much RL15 I feed it.This is not redlined at all and case life is excellent.

Actual shooting with these bullets shows a zero 3" high at 100 yards;down about 5" at 300 and 14"+- at 400 yards.These are "hold on hair" elk hunting trajectories to 400...turrets or dots will give more reach.

These trajectories are very much the same as a 270 with 150 gr or 30/06 with 165 gr.It is a common misconception among many that the 375H&H is strictly a short range cartridge.

No doubt the RUM is faster and flatter,at the expense of more recoil,more powder, etc, but the old H&H is fully capable as a 400 yard BG cartridge,especially with todays best bullets..

I will take your word for it Bob. Since I don't own a H&H version, I've obviously been looking too much at the factory ballistics tables for it and not considering that they may be quite conservative. I've had such good results with the rum with the 260 AB that I haven't ran the 300 AB to see how it shoots or what the velocity potential is. I run mine at an easy 3050 with 24" bbl. I will admit in the light 700 XCR the rum was a handful for me. After 100 rds I ended up putting a holland style brake on it. Its a pussy cat now. Never a fan of brakes, it was worth it on this one..

Dufur: yes I can understand the recoil issue...the bigger RUM case is obviously a faster mousetrap,but recoil gets a bit brisk....

Have not used one but have fired the 375AI with 275 gr loaded to over 2900....after a few bouts with that and some other cartridge burning 90+- grains of powder, I decided the old H&H looked pretty good for the returns.

BTW, those velocities I quoted above come 77-78 gr RL15 from a 24" tube of my Krieger barreled M70...8# scoped ,and recoil is a pantload more manageable than the blown out version, or likely the RUM as well.

I figure the lower recoil and all round manageabilty, are well worth the extra few inches of drop at 400...elk and moose are large critters; long shots at Brown Bear are (or should be) taboo....

If you shooting is only local, anyone that takes your fancy would be good. If you were travelling overseas, the 375H&H would have to be the first choice, possibly re-chambered to 375 Weatherby, which as has been mentioned previously,can take factory 375H&H ammo if necessary. Be a shame to get to Africa, have you ammo go missing and have to use a borrowed just about plumb wore out loaner rifle(and probably pay dearly for the privelege).

Go with the H&H. Its been around 100 years, and will be around another 100. Cant say the same about the RUM. Not gaining enough to go through the powder burn.

I would go with the 375 H&H just for the nostalgia and it will do whatever you want.

Tough to beat a classic H&H.

I can't see the benefit of the ballistic advantage of anything bigger than the .375 H&H or Ruger. Both have excellent ballistics to as far out as you are gunna be shooting anything that requires that much bullet. And short of pachyderms, it is rare i hear folks sayin' they needed more gun than the old H&H. Once the .375 is too little, i'd want more bore, not more capacity.

I agree fully Bob. I presently have the 375 Ruger, mainly due to being a lefty and rifle choices available to us. I have a Ruger African that has had additional work done to it and I like it a great deal. It's a great level of usable power without going to the uber cases and even better today with the lighter, streamlined monobullets which make 400 yds fairly easy and five hundred doable with a little work.

George: Yup...I agree. The 375 Ruger is a good hull.

BobinNH, you got 375AI dies? For sale?

338: No I don't.....I never owned one but worked with a pal who did,and used his stuff.I stayed interested long enough to see what the case did,and went back to the H&H cartridge.

I did own essentially the same thing but necked to 35 cal...that outfit, too is long gone. Sorry.

Nice chair! I'm Weatherby partial.