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Re: Climbing Lyman #21 boltman #6052719 01/16/12
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,891 Illinois 1899sav OP Campfire Outfitter
OP 1899sav Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,891 Illinois	Originally Posted by boltman Originally Posted by lovemy99 Originally Posted by boltman Wow - that is one ugly hole. As we know, they did make a sight to mount on the wrist, but that sure isn't it. I do agree that the hole in the receiver hole looks about right for a climbin Lyman. That rifle is a great example of a rifle that I sure ain't interested in. you sure that is not the tang site for the wrist of an 1895? I guess it would be interesting to see what letters are marked on the underside of that tang sight. Don - what is marked on the underside of yours? I have learned something today as I have never seen a tang sight mounted on a wrist of a M1895. The only wood mounted one I was aware of was the one that is mounted much further back. And that one sort of made sense for someone who wanted a sight close to their eye. That model is more commonly found on Winchesters. Back to the one mounted on the M1895 wrist - this is not making sense to me as why not just mount a sight in the rear tang where there are tap holes put there specifically for that purpose Mine are Marked S21 �Can we move this along?" a bored voice stated. "I have places to be and people to shag."

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Re: Climbing Lyman #21 boltman #6052748 01/16/12
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter
lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA	Originally Posted by boltman Originally Posted by lovemy99 Originally Posted by boltman Wow - that is one ugly hole. As we know, they did make a sight to mount on the wrist, but that sure isn't it. I do agree that the hole in the receiver hole looks about right for a climbin Lyman. That rifle is a great example of a rifle that I sure ain't interested in. you sure that is not the tang site for the wrist of an 1895? Back to the one mounted on the M1895 wrist - this is not making sense to me as why not just mount a sight in the rear tang where there are tap holes put there specifically for that purpose Maybe they had not convinced Lyman to make a whole new tang sight designed to fit the holes they had set-up for them yet?? When do tang sights that fit the factory holes first show up in catalogs or advertisements? Andrew

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 boltman #6052773 01/16/12
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 14,585 N E Kansas Rick99 Campfire Outfitter
Rick99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 14,585 N E Kansas	"...this is not making sense to me as why not just mount a sight in the rear tang where there are tap holes put there specifically for that purpose ". Because this is the first Lyman tang sight made for the 1895. They are marked "SA". There was not one available yet that mounted using the Savage tang screw holes. We have seen several 1895's with the screw holes in the wood and a few that still had the sight mounted. Lyman probably used a sight made for another rifle (Marlin, Stevens...) with some small modification till they could produce one to fit the factory holes. Savage...never say "never". Rick... Join the NRA...together we stand, divided we fall!

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 Rick99 #6053012 01/16/12
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 14,324 Ontario, Canada mad_dog Campfire Outfitter
mad_dog Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 14,324 Ontario, Canada	Elwood used to have one of those on his 1895. I still have one that uses the wood screws on my desk that is stamped SA underneath. 24 hour sarcastic S.O.B.

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 mad_dog #6053043 01/16/12
Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire L Loggah Campfire Outfitter
Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire	Joe,Thats the one i own now ,got it off Elwood!! Don

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Re: Climbing Lyman #21 Loggah #6053223 01/16/12
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mad_dog Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 14,324 Ontario, Canada	Ah, o.k., ya I've got a couple pics of that gun, very nice. 24 hour sarcastic S.O.B.

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 mad_dog #6053284 01/16/12
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mad_dog Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 14,324 Ontario, Canada	Hey, heres a pic of Dons gun and a pic of my SA 1895 tang sight. Anyone here with a sharp eye see a similarity thats probably not just a coincidence? 24 hour sarcastic S.O.B.

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 mad_dog #6053397 01/16/12
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,726 Alberta, Canada 99trix Campfire Regular
99trix Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,726 Alberta, Canada	Yup, plain as day!

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 99trix #6053422 01/16/12
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mad_dog Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 14,324 Ontario, Canada	Wierd that they would make them like that huh? And they can only go in one way so it's not like someone put them in backwards. 24 hour sarcastic S.O.B.

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 Rick99 #6053441 01/16/12
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norm99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 7,684 BC transplant to n alberta And...	Originally Posted by Rick99 "...this is not making sense to me as why not just mount a sight in the rear tang where there are tap holes put there specifically for that purpose ". Because this is the first Lyman tang sight made for the 1895. They are marked "SA". There was not one available yet that mounted using the Savage tang screw holes. We have seen several 1895's with the screw holes in the wood and a few that still had the sight mounted. Lyman probably used a sight made for another rifle (Marlin, Stevens...) with some small modification till they could produce one to fit the factory holes. i foundan 1899A ser32,xxx that originaly had a tang sight on the wrist but now wears one on the tang,,i presumed that it wore a winchester one but now am changing my mind,. if i ever get the gun i will ask if there is not only the rear sight [thinks he has it ] but the old tang as well , There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle----Robert Alden . If it wern't entertaining, I wouldn't keep coming back.------the BigSky

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Re: Climbing Lyman #21 norm99 #6053548 01/16/12
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boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467	Do we have any examples of what we believe to be correct tang sights mounted in this same location on M1899's?

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 boltman #6053573 01/16/12
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boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467	For those who hadn't seen the pictures of the tang sight referred to earlier, here goes. This is the only style tang sight I am aware of that was made to fit on the wrist of a M1899. Note that the holes would be located much further down on the wrist than the M1895 tang sight. Norm - where were the holes on the one you saw?

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 boltman #6053597 01/16/12
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,999 ON & NB olgrouser Campfire Tracker
olgrouser Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,999 ON & NB	That sight brings a whole new dimension to potentially shooting your eye out! "Rhetoric is no substitute for reality." -Thomas Sowell

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 boltman #6053599 01/16/12
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99trix Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,726 Alberta, Canada	From the 1897 catalogue Blair

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 boltman #6053679 01/16/12
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norm99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 7,684 BC transplant to n alberta And...	Originally Posted by boltman For those who hadn't seen the pictures of the tang sight referred to earlier, here goes. This is the only style tang sight I am aware of that was made to fit on the wrist of a M1899. Note that the holes would be located much further down on the wrist than the M1895 tang sight. Norm - where were the holes on the one you saw? that looks about right,its been about 3 months since i looked at it There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle----Robert Alden . If it wern't entertaining, I wouldn't keep coming back.------the BigSky

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 norm99 #6054164 01/17/12
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 14,324 Ontario, Canada mad_dog Campfire Outfitter
mad_dog Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 14,324 Ontario, Canada	I know where theres one of those S1S's, just haven't gotten around to coming to a price on it, the guy also has a Lyman SJ which I've never seen before either. 24 hour sarcastic S.O.B.

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 mad_dog #6054170 01/17/12
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Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire	Joe,I had two of those eye punchers, one for a savage and one for a Winchester model 1895, i traded the Winchester one to a friend who collects sights,said W12 something on the base.I couldent even shoulder the rifle without having that thing in my eye !!!!! .Don

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 Loggah #6054256 01/17/12
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mad_dog Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 14,324 Ontario, Canada	Thats pretty much all I want it for to Don. I've got one here now thats stamped S2S and then stamped 1914 beside it. Kinda neat that they stamped the model # into the sight as well. 24 hour sarcastic S.O.B.

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 mad_dog #6054298 01/17/12
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boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467	Originally Posted by mad_dog Thats pretty much all I want it for to Don. I've got one here now thats stamped S2S and then stamped 1914 beside it. Kinda neat that they stamped the model # into the sight as well. Don - I have shouldered a couple Winchester M1894's with this sight. The sight sure does provide a tremendous open field of view! By the way, it would be interesting to know if your M1895 Winchester was shipped with that sight. Only about one in ten M1895's were tapped for tang sight.

Re: Climbing Lyman #21 boltman #6054318 01/17/12
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Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire	Steve, The sight was one i bought separate some years back, i just put it on the rifle to see how it fit me ,it didnt !! i didn't screw it down just held it in place with my hand.:) Don Last edited by Loggah; 01/17/12.

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