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So they're okay to use on elk, but not Kudu?
Kudu being roughly the same size as elk if not a tad smaller...
Makes perfect sense to me

Hey I though you were dead???

+10 to safariman.

Once you've seen a match or pseudo match bullet blow to pieces when it hits a big bone in a big animal, and realize the animal would have been lost (or worse if agressive) and was only recovered because the guide put a quick fu shot in with a hunting bullet, you reach the conclusion that bullet construction and performance counts a lot more than BC or inches of drop @ 1000 yards (where nobody has any business shooting at live animals anyway).

Find me a PH who suggests his clients bring match/pseudo match bullets to take down serious big game.
The story of Major (?) Grey and the Lion tells what happens when thin jackets. lead cores and high velocity come together against a medium size animal that fights back.

"The case of a refined English gent named Grey will provide an excellent example. Grey and two companions were hunting driven lion from horse back in the African Savannas, early in the last century. Grey was armed with a .280 Ross rifle. The agreement was that if the beaters put up a lion, the riders were to merge together before an attempt was made to take it. The beaters did put up two lions, and Grey's companions were a considerable distance away.

Grey foolishly decided to take the male lion himself with his .280. He rode close and fired a shot into it, wounding but not disabling the beast. Understandably, the lion took exception to this unprovoked assault and charged, knocking Grey to the ground and biting and clawing him to teach him some manners, before bounding off into the long grass.
Although terribly mutilated, Grey did not die straight away. He managed to communicate to his companions that his fate was entirely due to his own stupid actions and not the fault of the beaters. He died several days later in a hospital. The wounded lion was tracked and dispatched by Grey's companions."

Section any Berger, SMK, AMax and a high spitzer soft point velocity bullet of the 1930s. May look different on the outside but construction is the same.

Even the puff piece written on hunting in NZ with Bergers admitted there was ONE hole, that the elastic skin closed right up. In other words no tracking possible.

There is just no rational reason NOT to use a proven hunting bullet when hunting. Had Grey used a 140 gr TSX in his 280 (about like a 7mm remmeg) he probably would have died in bed as an old man, not of Septicemia in great discomfort in a colonial hospital.

I would so shoot an African lion with a VLD.

This grizzly bear outweighed most any lion and the VLD simply wrecked him from very bad angles.

........When it comes to Fill In The Blank, you have far more experience than me.

I thought you died; or at least had the decency to quit. Oh I forgot, nothing you say is true. Carry on.

I'd love to see a pic of you with your VLD killed elk...

Got pics. 35mm pics in a photo album.

Assume I were to learn how to post pics.

Have your nephew help you, He's a computer whiz right?

And he's familiar with your computer, password and all, right?

I would so shoot an African lion with a VLD.

This grizzly bear outweighed most any lion and the VLD simply wrecked him from very bad angles.

...............You can believe or not believe whatever you want. I really don`t care.

Got pics. 35mm pics in a photo album.

I would so shoot an African lion with a VLD.
This grizzly bear outweighed most any lion and the VLD simply wrecked him from very bad angles.

Have your nephew help you, He's a computer whiz right?

And he's familiar with your computer, password and all, right?

Which cartridge and bullet??? Inquiring minds.......

...............You can believe or not believe whatever you want. I really don`t care.

Got pics. 35mm pics in a photo album.

Since my credibility is already down the tubes of which I really don`t care anyway,