24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 409
Campfire Member
OP Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 409
Just purchased one of these. Whats your opinion or experience with the trail lite?


There are no bad days hunting elk, some are just better.
GB1

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,291
Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,291
Likes: 2
It's the latest incarnation of the standard, old school Thermarest. Good pad. Heavy.

However, once you go Neoair you'll never go back... far more comfortable, lighter (and more expensive of course)...


“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,027
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,027
I've used nothing but a RidgeRest over the years. Last time I used it a few months ago, my hips were killing me in the morning (getting old).

I looked at the NeoAir and couldn't decide between getting the 20" regular or the 25" large for several more ounces.

Any thoughts?

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,291
Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,291
Likes: 2
Go Large... once it's inflated it shrinks by several inches all around.


“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,027
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,027
Thanks. Large was my first choice, too, but the older I get the heavier my pack feels.

I was at a Gander Mountain store two days ago and saw NeoAir stuff sacks for regular pads on a clearance rack for $4. I almost made my decision to buy a regular-sized pad based on the ability to save $10 or $15 on a stuff sack. Pretty dumb logic....

IC B2

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 409
Campfire Member
OP Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 409
Funny, I found a website that gave comparisons of lots of backpacking pads. I saw the Thermarest Prolite Plus was the same R value and the same thickness as the Trail Lite, but the Pro Lite Plus was less weight and packed smaller. Called the store I got the Trail Lite and they had the Prolite Plus on sale...
So, after an exchange I have a Prolite Plus...

I like it a lot all ready.


There are no bad days hunting elk, some are just better.
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,058
S
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,058
Beware that stated R-values translate poorly to reality. Get some time with them and you'll know what works well and when.

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 7,191
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 7,191
Thats why I now pack an Exped Downmat and love it. I've slept on top of snow in it down to 20 degrees and been nice and toasty.

I fail to see how any aircore, with nothing in it, has any R value thats not based purely on fiction.



That said, I'm shopping for a pad for this summer when I thru hike The Bob. and the Thermarest on on top of a very short list


I'm Irish...

Of course I know how to patch drywall
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,291
Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,291
Likes: 2
Reflective barriers work, but it remains to be seen "how well" they work in a sleeping pad. For me the Neoair is far ahead of the Exped in terms of comfort (I don't like longitudinal baffles) but not everyone feels the same.


“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,125
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,125
Another happy Downmat user here. The thing flat out rocks. Warm and more comfortable than my bed at home. sleep grin

Heavish though and more than is needed for early season stuff. I'll be getting a Neoair to try out for that stuff. Haven't decided which one yet...


Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
I've seen more well-shot game lost with TSXs than any other premium bullet.

IC B3

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,291
Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,291
Likes: 2
For real cold I carry a 1/4" Evazote pad anyway... put it on top of the inflatable.


“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,291
Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,291
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by SnowyMountaineer
Beware that stated R-values translate poorly to reality. Get some time with them and you'll know what works well and when.


I think that's exactly right.


“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,831
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,831
I guess I am less picky about my sleep. I like Big Agnes pads with the longitudinal baffles just as well as my Neo Air with the horizontal ones. I also use a simple size short/small neo air and find it works find with my pack to support my legs. Don't notice and difference in quality of sleep between the shorty Neo or the full size one, or even the full size Big Anges IACs.

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 959
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 959
alaska lanche
we should all be so lucky!
I need 2.5- 3.5 inch pad to go with my back nowadays.
Think Kooka bay

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,291
Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,291
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by alaska_lanche
I guess I am less picky about my sleep. I like Big Agnes pads with the longitudinal baffles just as well as my Neo Air with the horizontal ones. I also use a simple size short/small neo air and find it works find with my pack to support my legs. Don't notice and difference in quality of sleep between the shorty Neo or the full size one, or even the full size Big Anges IACs.


I slept on a 3/8" Ensolite pad into my early 30's.

I'll be 51 in June... I notice all manner of differences now.

You'll see grin


“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,831
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,831
No doubt, I'll enjoy it while I can. My 27 year old bones are pretty tolerant right now. No doubt if you double my age, you'd find me packing size large air pad as well. laugh

I hear that getting old stuff ain't for sissies.

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,228
E
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
E
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,228
I like the large Neo Air, but more times than not I use the medium (60".) I've got over 50 nights on one and I sleep as good as I do in my bed and I'll be 55 this year.

A good nights sleep is something I will always carry extra weight for, but I still try to go as light as possible.


Ed T

Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 209
S
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
S
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 209
Originally Posted by Ed_T

A good nights sleep is something I will always carry extra weight for, but I still try to go as light as possible.


My thoughts exactly. Exped has become my go to...side sleeper and need more conformity that 1 inch pad can give. I agree it is a little heavier and space consuming, but I find that I can make up for a bit of the loss in a lighter sleeping bag.

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 399
R
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
R
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 399
My best sleep in the back country comes on a Large Neoair. I'm not one of those guys who cuts the handle off his toothbrush to save a little weight, I leave the whole thing at home to save all of it. The Neoair on the other-hand is worth every ounce, especially on multi-day outings.

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,554
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,554
I've also got the NeoAir pad in large and love it. For a few more ounces i've got an extra 5" in width and now they make these things in 2.5" thickness compared to my old Prolite 4, which was only 1.5" and 20" wide.

As soon as they get them in stock i'm getting the new NeoAir X-Lite for the wife, also in large.


That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.

Steelhead


Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

333 members (06hunter59, 12344mag, 1minute, 117LBS, 219DW, 10ring1, 43 invisible), 2,270 guests, and 1,085 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,193,321
Posts18,505,832
Members74,000
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.126s Queries: 54 (0.027s) Memory: 0.8934 MB (Peak: 0.9897 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-12 04:52:50 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS