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It's a pretty neat rifle.


Terry

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Seriously that is Superb!! Sir

Gunner

Wow!! That is beauty in metal form!!


ddj

Terry,

You have beautiful rifles! Congrats Sir!


ddj

Well I may have found another neat way to go about the 9.3x62 journey. I have located a Brno 22F in 8x57 for a good price. I can have it rebored by JES for $225 and come out cheaper than the 1909 route. It won't be a full blown custom but it will be what I want, I think. Might have to alter the bolt handle but I will try it with Warne medium QDs for now with a Minox 1.5-8x32 scope from Doug.

Sounds like a winner to me!

One day I hope to have a stock like the one the Dressels did for yours on it!

Yes, I know the feeling. I have a few customs.

I tend to agree with JB. There is nothing really special about the Argentines, that is until you put it next to a VZ24 or a Daley. Now lay the Argentine next to an Oberndorf and see a difference. Now I am talking about the German Built Argentines, not the FMAP Argentines. One of the few faults of the great 98 is that it was designed with the gas ports in the bolt facing the left raceway. Not the best way to do it even with the flanged bolt shroud. Ruger 77's face the ports down into the magazine and still have the flanged shroud. Finn always prefered the Mauser and so do I for most of the same reasons. Yet for the dollar spent any newer factory rifle is a better investment than any military conversion. Then again, investments are for bankers and 98's are for Loonies.

Ended up buying a half stock Brno instead of the Mannlicher:


JES will be reboring to 9.3x62 and I will send the stock off to Karnis for some work. Might change out the bolt handle to a regular straight down with a teardrop style. It has been D&T with 3 holes so hopefully I can have another hole added to put on the Talley bases for their QD rings. I will either go with a Leupold 2-7x33 or the Minox 1.5-8 depending on how much cash is left.

why stop at the 62. Why not move up a couple of mm to the 64.

If a 286gr 9.3mm at 62 velocities can't do it you might need a bigger bullet. This is to be my one rifle/cartridge for everything from Coyotes to Pachyderms. I plan to use it constantly until it is an extension of me and hopefully take it to Alaska and Africa.

My .280 Rem. custom is on a 1909 Mauser by DWM. My custom 7x57 is on a commercial FN action and my .35 Whelen is someone's custom from the mid 1930's and is on elk killing S.O.B. It happens to fit me like a glove.Current Mauser project is a Husqvaran 640 barreled action in 30-06. I haven't decided whether to leave it in 06 or go for something else. The only other action that was slighter slicker than that Husky was a 1903 M/S in 6.5x54. I prefer Mausers. I never had much use for the Pre-64 M70. I feel it's just a bit over rated. JMHO and as Elmer Keith once said, "I prefer to let every man scratch his own fleas in whatever manner he chooses."
Paul B.

I missed this thread 6 years ago, but I concur with this ^^^. So much so I have a 9.3x64 Brenneke on a .... drum roll please .... 1909

Karnis,

I never said the 1909 was defective. I only said that I have those rifles and I tried them and that I prefer that 'harder metal' feel of the CZ's, That their bolt is easier to lift and cycle for me.

Now this is where we disagree. I find the old Mauser actions to be soft and to have a heavier bolt lift when the pin is down for instance. I just don't like how they are more difficult to move the bolt back the forth either.

What seems to be harder steel that the M70's have been made from works so quick and easy for me.

Karnis hasn’t posted for 4 years. Even still, compared to Don his 4 years of no posts are priceless

I don't know if he would talk to you over the phone or not, but if he would, David Miller might be a guy to talk to about what he thinks about 1909 Actions. He has built and I think will still build very high end rifles on 1909 actions. I believe the Elephant rifle in .458 Win Mag was built on a 1909 Action and was sold for $41,000 many years ago. I know that Jim Carmichael has a 1909 in .338 from David Miller that he has used all around the world and has written about it quite a bit. I am sure that there are probably hundreds of high end David Miller Rifles built on 1909 Argentine Mauser actions. He might know how many came back with problems.

Guess what. Jim still has it.

Jim said every buff he shot with the 338 stopped in it's tracks. One from several years ago.

This is it:

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You might be surprised to know how few rifles are produced by David Miller’s shop or that of any other top maker. Most bespoke builders finish fewer than 12 a year. Of those, most are not shot much.